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Old 07-05-2019, 07:39 AM
 
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Seems the candidates for the Democratic Primary are focused on serving those who are entering this country illegal over citizens who can legally vote in elections. It’s like they all share the same campaign manager strategy of “focus on the undocumented immigrants because we know the African-Americans and Jews are going to vote for us out of blind loyalty”.
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Old 07-05-2019, 08:46 AM
 
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Are illegal aliens voting for US President?

No.

Next stupid question?
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Old 07-05-2019, 08:47 AM
 
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Are illegal aliens voting for US President?

No.

Next stupid question?
Then why are they pandering to illegal aliens in the debates?
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Old 07-05-2019, 08:57 AM
 
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Then why are they pandering to illegal aliens in the debates?
Illegal aliens can't vote. It's sad that this needs to be said, but it appears there are a large number of ignorant people who simply cannot or refuse to believe this truth, or are just willfully ignorant. Which category do you fall into?
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Old 07-05-2019, 08:59 AM
 
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Are illegal aliens voting for US President?
Nope

So, you're still stuck on tRump's lie about "5 million illegals voted in 2016!"

He was so upset about losing the vote by 3 million that he made up that lie and then formed a commission to "investigate."

The investigation was cancelled after it failed to back up his bs.

https://www.npr.org/2018/08/04/63566...ion-speaks-out

Of course, Trumplings will disregard reality and continue to swallow his baloney.

It's what they're all about.

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Old 07-05-2019, 09:01 AM
 
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Then why are they pandering to illegal aliens in the debates?
Because some citizens house family members who are illegal. For these citizens, when you say "deport all illegals," you are saying "invade his or her house and take Uncle Juan away." For you an illegal is an abstract. For those citizens it's very personal.
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Old 07-05-2019, 09:52 AM
 
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Since the answer is yes if 1 person does it

Yes.

Do enough do it to make a difference in any election decided by less than 100 votes?

No

Part of being an illegal is keeping off radar.
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Old 07-05-2019, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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Then why are they pandering to illegal aliens in the debates?



That is a very good question OP.



I think part of why the Left is championing for the Rights of illegal aliens is because it is in direct opposition to what Trump is trying to do.

If Trump was PRO illegal alien the Left would denounce him and be demanding his impeachment for turning his back on the needs of citizens.



I think the other part is that the Left is setting up a solid block of voters for the future be that 2020 or 2024. If a Dem wins the WH in 2020 I have no doubt that we will be hearing talk of amnesty for illegal aliens and once they get that and the "pathway to citizenship" is paved like a highway how long will it be before they get a vote? You can't have a subclass of citizen that works, pays taxes etc... and they don't get a voice in politics.

The amnesty bill will all be packaged up with a pretty bow on it and the gullible will vote it in because didn't we once fight a war over "taxation without representation"?

And we will never see another Republican in higher office again.



Imagine this, Trump despite his many faults as President might be our last best chance to hold on to the country we love.
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Old 07-05-2019, 10:10 AM
 
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Seems the candidates for the Democratic Primary are focused on serving those who are entering this country illegal over citizens who can legally vote in elections. It’s like they all share the same campaign manager strategy of “focus on the undocumented immigrants because we know the African-Americans and Jews are going to vote for us out of blind loyalty”.
you bet they are along with dead people and snowbirds
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Old 07-05-2019, 11:26 AM
 
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That is a very good question OP.



I think part of why the Left is championing for the Rights of illegal aliens is because it is in direct opposition to what Trump is trying to do.

If Trump was PRO illegal alien the Left would denounce him and be demanding his impeachment for turning his back on the needs of citizens.



I think the other part is that the Left is setting up a solid block of voters for the future be that 2020 or 2024. If a Dem wins the WH in 2020 I have no doubt that we will be hearing talk of amnesty for illegal aliens and once they get that and the "pathway to citizenship" is paved like a highway how long will it be before they get a vote? You can't have a subclass of citizen that works, pays taxes etc... and they don't get a voice in politics.

The amnesty bill will all be packaged up with a pretty bow on it and the gullible will vote it in because didn't we once fight a war over "taxation without representation"?

And we will never see another Republican in higher office again.



Imagine this, Trump despite his many faults as President might be our last best chance to hold on to the country we love.
Oh lordy. Do you understand the process and expense involved in becoming a U.S. Citizen? Do you honestly believe that illegals will be naturalized in 4 years? No way. Research how long it takes someone doing it the right way and how much money it costs. I have friends from India that have been working towards getting a green card that have been here around 8 years. They have been waiting for a green card for over two years now and have spent thousands of dollars on attorney fees. You tell me how an illegal is going to do that? After my friends get a green card it takes an additional year or so to become a citizen, and it could take longer than that.

Once again low information is you enemy.

The left is championing for the rights of illegals because it's in direct opposition to what Trump is trying to do? Again read! Here's something for you to research instead of blindly following spoon fed rhetoric. Did you know that illegal migrants are sent to for profit prisons? Did you know that the first stop for many migrant children is in the only for profit detention center in the U.S.? Did you know that the only for profit migrant detention center in the U.S. is run by Comprehensive Health Services and is owned by Caliburn International? Guess who sits on the board, go ahead take a wild guess. Give up? It's John Kelly, remember him from Trump's administration? Guess how many lobby dollars are spent on behalf of for profit prisons spent on campaign donations.

Look. Trump had two years of Republican controlled Congress and Senate. Why wasn't illegal immigration reform discussed then? Could it be that big business wants them here as well as private prisons and detention centers? Could it be that there's a lot of money to be made from exploiting them?

Trump is our last chance to hold on to the country we love? Do you mean an all white country? Well that's not going to happen. There are many citizens of all colors that are here to stay.

Maybe just maybe we should be following the big money that owns this country that has eroded "we the people" instead of focusing on bigotry and hate, buy hey, fear mongering and hate works great for the look over there president.
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