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Old 02-18-2020, 09:14 AM
 
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Many farmers are going to need to get another job. Farming is more efficient and we have too many farmers growing too much food. We are paying them not to grow food. That has to end. If learning to code is too hard for them, there are other careers.
"Efficiency" is an ideological term. You define what efficiency is based on your ideas about socially/economically acceptable externalities. American views on externalities are so messed up if not suicidal.
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Old 02-18-2020, 09:17 AM
 
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Chinese aren't growing food. Locusts are eating food. The central U.S. was underwater last year. Crop sciences and chemical companies are gene editing our food. I'm glad you're not making farming decisions.
Food is being stockpiled. Get real.
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Old 02-18-2020, 09:17 AM
 
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Many farmers are going to need to get another job. Farming is more efficient and we have too many farmers growing too much food. We are paying them not to grow food. That has to end. If learning to code is too hard for them, there are other careers.
Coding isn't hard but everyone isn't cut out for it (raises hand), furthermore these jobs are also threatened by foreign competition.

I want to hear Bloomberg's real plan for the displaced blue collar workers. And the displaced American tech workers. Eventually tech jobs themselves will be automated. Computers will program other computers. There will be need for fewer and fewer human workers across the board, there will be a lot of wasted "gray matter" wandering around.
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Old 02-18-2020, 09:27 AM
 
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He can`t win a primary because his name hasn`t been on a ballot yet. It`s no wonder that Trump loves you folks.
I'm talking about the primary nomination itself, and that is why I said a billion dollars (instead of the $400 million he's spent so far).
I'm saying Bloomberg won't win the nomination, no matter how much money he spends.
He'll go down in history as the biggest loser in the history of federal politics, someone so unappealing that no amount of money could save him.
Especially humiliating when his main rival won the Presidency in 2016 without much money invested in ads.
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Old 02-18-2020, 09:30 AM
 
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Food is being stockpiled. Get real.
Gosh, farming productivity sounds like knowledge work.
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Old 02-18-2020, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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He's running up quite the list in just a few days out amongst the hoi polloi.
  • OK with denying healthcare to the elderly to save money (nothing about cutting profits)
  • Advocated policy for arresting Black & Latino kids because they might be criminal. Pot possession.
  • Compared the American Farmer to "idiots".
  • Can't be bothered to actually learn the name of the 3rd largest city in North Carolina when he went there to make a speech.
  • Thinks it's a good idea to consider Hillary Clinton as a running mate. (and he's hiring some of her staff now)
He's a rolling time bomb for the Democrats. And of course they've bought the MSM/polling narrative hook line and sinker as they usually do.


(And we haven't even gotten to the many years of other statements and doings with women that make Trump look like an angle in comparison. )
Let’s take this one by one, shall we:

1) In 2011, Bloomberg was talking about the cost of healthcare bankrupting the country and no one wants to pay more. He used an example of a 95 year old with incurable Prostate Cancer and made the point. There is a huge difference in cost between making this 95 year old as comfortable as possible and continuing to throw money at treating that which is incurable or spending $100,000 on a drug that might extend the 95 year old’s life by weeks.

2) While addressing the Aspen Institute in 2015 Bloomberg asserted “95% of all murders and murder victims are male minorities, 16-25. Spend money on a lot of cops and put them where the crime is, which is in minority neighborhoods. The UNINTENDED consequence is that PEOPLE SAY oh my God, you are arresting minority kids for marijuana”.

3) Bloomberg did not compare farmers to idiots. You and others prefer to react to an edited sound bite than invest time in the actual content. Bloomberg compared the agrarian society that persisted for 3000 years with the Industrial Age which lasted 300 years to the current Information Age.

4) Cant find reference to the third largest city in N.C. I assume he flubbed it. National politicians do this from time to time. Which POTUS tweeted congrats to the KC Chiefs and the great state of Kansas, just a few weeks ago?

5) An unnamed person allegedly told someone at the Drudge Report “Bloomberg was considering Hillary as a running mate”. You are consistently quick to condemn unnamed sources when it suits you. Sounds to me like a plant. The source may have been Trump 2020 or any of the campaigns of any Democrat candidate or even from Bloomberg’s campaign to test the waters. Or perhaps it was completely fabricated.

It’s curious you did not mention Stop & Frisk. Is it possible you chose to omit this because Trump, the sitting POTUS is a long time advocate for Step & Frisk, including while POTUS.

In 2015-6, Trump blew away his Republican competition by entertaining the masses with childish name calling and outrageous remarks. He delivered the red meat and endless entertainment. He won the nomination as the best candidate to bear Hillary. Right up to the election, Trump referred to the EC as a rigged system. The irony that it was the EC that elected him was not lost on anyone. What might have been the reaction if Trump won the popular vote and lost the EC?

I have no idea who will win the DNC nomination. Presumably, it will be whomever is perceived as the best shot to beat Trump.
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Old 02-18-2020, 10:06 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Let’s take this one by one, shall we:

1) In 2011, Bloomberg was talking about the cost of healthcare bankrupting the country and no one wants to pay more. He used an example of a 95 year old with incurable Prostate Cancer and made the point. There is a huge difference in cost between making this 95 year old as comfortable as possible and continuing to throw money at treating that which is incurable or spending $100,000 on a drug that might extend the 95 year old’s life by weeks.

2) While addressing the Aspen Institute in 2015 Bloomberg asserted “95% of all murders and murder victims are male minorities, 16-25. Spend money on a lot of cops and put them where the crime is, which is in minority neighborhoods. The UNINTENDED consequence is that PEOPLE SAY oh my God, you are arresting minority kids for marijuana”.

3) Bloomberg did not compare farmers to idiots. You and others prefer to react to an edited sound bite than invest time in the actual content. Bloomberg compared the agrarian society that persisted for 3000 years with the Industrial Age which lasted 300 years to the current Information Age.

4) Cant find reference to the third largest city in N.C. I assume he flubbed it. National politicians do this from time to time. Which POTUS tweeted congrats to the KC Chiefs and the great state of Kansas, just a few weeks ago?

5) An unnamed person allegedly told someone at the Drudge Report “Bloomberg was considering Hillary as a running mate”. You are consistently quick to condemn unnamed sources when it suits you. Sounds to me like a plant. The source may have been Trump 2020 or any of the campaigns of any Democrat candidate or even from Bloomberg’s campaign to test the waters. Or perhaps it was completely fabricated.

It’s curious you did not mention Stop & Frisk. Is it possible you chose to omit this because Trump, the sitting POTUS is a long time advocate for Step & Frisk, including while POTUS.

In 2015-6, Trump blew away his Republican competition by entertaining the masses with childish name calling and outrageous remarks. He delivered the red meat and endless entertainment. He won the nomination as the best candidate to bear Hillary. Right up to the election, Trump referred to the EC as a rigged system. The irony that it was the EC that elected him was not lost on anyone. What might have been the reaction if Trump won the popular vote and lost the EC?

I have no idea who will win the DNC nomination. Presumably, it will be whomever is perceived as the best shot to beat Trump.
Perfect. Thank you.
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Old 02-18-2020, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Primitive idiots, eh?

Sounds like you prefer to seize on an out of context sound bite and then attribute a spin.

Sorry to read you seem to believe the mostly illiterate GLOBAL agrarian society which persisted for 3000 years is capable of functioning in this, the Information Age.

Sorry to read that you choose to take his remark and attribute it to current US farmers who today in the US rely on undocumented semi- literate people for harvest. Are these the drug runners, criminals and rapists Trump referred to when he kicked of his campaign in 2015 or the masses who are harvesting strawberries in Florida right now that can be found is stores 2 pints/ $3?
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Old 02-18-2020, 10:22 AM
 
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Let’s take this one by one, shall we:

1) In 2011, Bloomberg was talking about the cost of healthcare bankrupting the country and no one wants to pay more. He used an example of a 95 year old with incurable Prostate Cancer and made the point. There is a huge difference in cost between making this 95 year old as comfortable as possible and continuing to throw money at treating that which is incurable or spending $100,000 on a drug that might extend the 95 year old’s life by weeks.

2) While addressing the Aspen Institute in 2015 Bloomberg asserted “95% of all murders and murder victims are male minorities, 16-25. Spend money on a lot of cops and put them where the crime is, which is in minority neighborhoods. The UNINTENDED consequence is that PEOPLE SAY oh my God, you are arresting minority kids for marijuana”.

3) Bloomberg did not compare farmers to idiots. You and others prefer to react to an edited sound bite than invest time in the actual content. Bloomberg compared the agrarian society that persisted for 3000 years with the Industrial Age which lasted 300 years to the current Information Age.

4) Cant find reference to the third largest city in N.C. I assume he flubbed it. National politicians do this from time to time. Which POTUS tweeted congrats to the KC Chiefs and the great state of Kansas, just a few weeks ago?

5) An unnamed person allegedly told someone at the Drudge Report “Bloomberg was considering Hillary as a running mate”. You are consistently quick to condemn unnamed sources when it suits you. Sounds to me like a plant. The source may have been Trump 2020 or any of the campaigns of any Democrat candidate or even from Bloomberg’s campaign to test the waters. Or perhaps it was completely fabricated.

It’s curious you did not mention Stop & Frisk. Is it possible you chose to omit this because Trump, the sitting POTUS is a long time advocate for Step & Frisk, including while POTUS.

In 2015-6, Trump blew away his Republican competition by entertaining the masses with childish name calling and outrageous remarks. He delivered the red meat and endless entertainment. He won the nomination as the best candidate to bear Hillary. Right up to the election, Trump referred to the EC as a rigged system. The irony that it was the EC that elected him was not lost on anyone. What might have been the reaction if Trump won the popular vote and lost the EC?

I have no idea who will win the DNC nomination. Presumably, it will be whomever is perceived as the best shot to beat Trump.
This is what it looks like to have baseless talking points crushed like an aluminum can in a trash compactor. Well done.
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Old 02-18-2020, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Good Lord. Can he be even more out of touch with the realities of farming and skill labor?

Humans started being replaced during the industrial revolution, by complex machinery, long before the tech he's talking about

Farming doesn't take much skill or tech?

How does happen that the only 2% he mentioned that are now farmers yet produce an abundant and steady supply of food?

What an imbecile
Another who reacts to an edited, out of context, sound bite instead of his clear reference to an agrarian society that persisted for 3000 years, followed by the Industrial Age that persisted for 300 years to the current Information Age.

Had you cared to invest a tad more time you would have heard him say “ the modern economy does not create good, reliable jobs for low skilled workers the way past economies did.”
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