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Old 02-21-2020, 09:58 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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Would you consider Canada or the UK to be socialist countries?

All Bernie is advocating is policies similar to those nations.

Why do you people keep insisting falsely that he is advocating to be Soviet Russia or Venezuela?
I had a painter yesterday came to our house, he’s from the U.K., interestingly enough, he said he wouldn’t go back to that dump again. When he’s back to U.K., he said he’s the only one who pays for everyone’s beer. Is that what you want for USA?
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Old 02-21-2020, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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I had a painter yesterday came to our house, he’s from the U.K., interestingly enough, he said he wouldn’t go back to that dump again. When he’s back to U.K., he said he’s the only one who pays for everyone’s beer. Is that what you want for USA?
Where he is starting from isn't even close to what we would end up with once it gets through Congress. But we might at least end up with something marginally better than the present.
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Old 02-21-2020, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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It's true. The Bernie supporters are violent haters.


The Dems can't win. If Bernie gets the nomination, the independents and moderates won't vote for him. (Socialist.) If the nomination is taken from him and given to Bloomberg, the Bernie supporters won't vote for Bloomberg. Meaning: TRUMP WINS.
So true. Dems are damned if they do, damned if they don't, it seems.

I've been saying a party that runs on hate and rage will not succeed in their mission, ever.

Democrats are a party of rage and hate against Trump, and everything they attempt seems to be a sinking ship.

They need to clean house and start fresh.
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Old 02-21-2020, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA
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Gonna be a Trump Landslide thanks to Dems feeling the Bern. I won't vote for that old chump. He's more of an ass than Trump who may be an ass but at least he is running the country well. Bernie will give all our taxes to deadbeat programs for have nothings and take all my hard work. No thanks Bernout, not doing it so I guess we keep a facist in office. Dems are so stupid.
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Old 02-21-2020, 03:28 PM
 
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Bloomberg will draw in some independents and some disaffected republicans. He is kind of Trump light. Maybe he is abusive towards women, but not as abusive. Maybe he is condescending and rude, but not as condescending and rude. Bernie would trash the economy and giggle with joy as he did it. Bloomberg will nto trash the economy - at least not on purpose. Bloomberg might have a chance. Biden might as well.
Bloomberg isnt anything like Trump. Trump is an anti establishment disruptor nationalist. Bloomberg is a globalist and in bed with China. If anything, the very fact that Trump is taking on China should make you vote for him. God knows no one else has.
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Old 02-21-2020, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Yes, totally absurd to follow the will of the democratic electorate. Sanders is the clear front runner already and handily beats any of the other candidates, including Biden and Bloomberg in head-to-head polls. If Sanders also get the most votes by a significant margin, it would be outrageous to hand pick someone else.

Trump is laughing his head off at the thought the DNC selecting someone with 15% of the vote as the nominee.
Trump and Putin are laughing their heads off at the thought of Democratic voters choosing someone who will struggle to get 45% of the vote in the general election.
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Old 02-21-2020, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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I'd rather be a Bernie sucker the a Koch sucker.....


If this country can survive Trump it can survive Bernie. It is a real stretch to get anyone to believe true socialism will happen.
Little to nothing would happen domestically. Domestic policy requires Congress and they would not get a majority for 99% of what Bernie proposes including MFA. Foreign policy though, he could influence. Given his coziness with Maduro, the Castros, and Daniel Ortega among other communists and leftists around the globe, it could be a major shift in US foreign relations.
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Old 02-21-2020, 04:36 PM
 
Location: minnesota
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There is zero "hard left" about Bernie. The guy is firmly planted in social democratic traditions and his policies would be embraced by most conservative parties in the rest of the developed world. He's a FDR-New Deal democrat. FDR was the most popular president in the last 100 years. If you seriously believe higher SS benefits, getting big money out of politics, strengthening labor unions and Medicare-for-all is "hard left", then you're way to the right of the mainstream. That's why Bernie is the most popular senator in the country, and he regularly gets lots of support among republicans in Vermont. They know who he is better than anyone.
It's the same recycled arguments used against FDR and Truman as well. Both wanted to have universal health care. We survived both presidents without slipping into communism but I guess this time is different in some people's eyes.
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Old 02-21-2020, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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Bernie is a professional looter.
Bernie is just Fidel Castro without the uniform and cigar.
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Old 02-21-2020, 05:49 PM
 
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That's a good article and I especially like his nickname for Bernie..... "Vermont Stalin"... LOL

Now let me summarize the article;


"You are all hopelessly stupid, you are all lemmings, because you don't see how good you are having it under Donald Trump. In fact, you all are downright idiots, ( let's repeat it five times in a row, so I would feel better,) and I am the only one who knows it all, because I lived in the ruins of socialism and the rest of you are clueless ( did I mention you are all idiots?)

And just because you are idiots, you are going to vote for Sanders, and that makes me laugh ( nervously by the way,) because god forbids he is going to win, while I had it so good under Trump))) And what's good for me, should be good for you, stupid dolts."

Did I get it right?
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