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Old 10-15-2020, 08:44 PM
 
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1. I wouldn't call appointing a woman as his VP "pandering". Had he picked Bernie as his VP, people would have said he was pandering to progressives. Had he picked Buttigieg, people would have said he was pandering to LGBT folks. Had he picked a straight, white man for his VP, the same people would have criticized him for that, so he went with someone he thought was more than qualified, Kamala, who happens to be black and a woman.

2. This focus on Hunter Biden is nothing but a last ditch effort of the failing Trump re-election campaign to basically pull a 2016-esque surprise at the eleventh hour. The timing of this is extremely suspicious and the New York Post's reporting of all this reeks of misinformation (getting pulled from social media sites). At this point Trump is drowning in controversy and scandal (taxes, COVID, inciting white supremacists, disrespecting our veterans, etc.) so I wouldn't put it past him to start slinging mud at the competition.

3. "Progressive" doesn't equate to socialist or far-left. Reducing income inequality, reforming our policing, getting money out of politics, and introducing renewable energy policies are not and should not be considered far-left policies.
Saying that you're going to pick a "woman" in the primaries is pandering. Being a "woman" is not a qualification, it's an involuntary characteristic.

The Hunter Biden thing is not last minute, it's been going on for years, starting with the Obama admin distancing from it. It's just not been covered by the media.

He signed a compact with the self-avowed socialist in the Democrat party. Bernie will definitely have a cabinet position if Biden somehow wins. What more evidence to you want???
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Old 10-15-2020, 08:46 PM
 
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HAHA what? Biden played "despacito" on his phone at a Latino event. He pre-signaled that he'd be picking a "woman" for his VP way back before he won the nomination. He "doesn't pander??"

He's also just been pretty much proven to have lied about his knowledge of his son's corrupt behavior, using his VP status as a way to make money for him.

Biden himself said he'd be the "most progressive candidate in history." That doesn't sound like a moderate. He might have been in 1987, certainly not now.

And Kamala Harris was so hated by even the Democrat party that she had to drop out before the first primary.
And you don’t think Trump’s pick of Pence was pandering to evangelicals?
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Old 10-15-2020, 08:58 PM
 
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Nationally, 58% Trump, 39% Biden. Michigan, 51% Trump, 47% Biden.
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Old 10-15-2020, 09:07 PM
 
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What are your predictions for the Presidential Election 2020 popular vote?

Here are mine--

Donald Trump:

2016 popular vote: 62,984,828

2020 predicted popular vote: 64,550,000


Joe Biden:

2016 Hillary Clinton popular vote: 65,853,514

2020 predicted Joe Biden popular vote: 62,700,000



I think Trump's voter enthusiasm is through the roof, partially due to the Democrat's ANTIFA and BLM destructive riots, and the abolish/defund police proposals.

I think a lot of would-be Democrat voters are turned off this election, and won't vote, in part due to bad candidate in Biden, his worse VP candidate in Harris, and just frustration due to everything going on.

Chime in with predictions and opinion.
If you are right every one of ten opinion polls right now are wrong.

I would predict Biden will win 70,000,000 votes. I predict Trump will win no more than 60,000,000 votes. In other words, I see a 10,000,000 popular vote margin for Biden. The electoral college is far more complicated. Right now I'll predict Biden wins 300 electoral votes and Trumps win 238. However, if Biden loses it will because of another electoral college fluke. It will boil down to Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. If Biden loses, it will be because he loses one or two of these states by narrow margins and does not pick up Florida, Arizona, and North Carolina.
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Old 10-15-2020, 11:08 PM
 
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Here's my prediction.

Trump states:
Nebraska's 3rd District, Nebraska, Wyoming, West Virginia, Oklahoma, North Dakota, South Dakota, Montana, Idaho, Kentucky, Alabama, Arkansas, Tennessee, Utah, Louisiana, Mississippi, Indiana, Kansas, Missouri, South Carolina, Alaska, Texas, Iowa, Ohio, Georgia, Maine's 2nd District

Biden States:
New York, New Jersey, California, Washington DC, Hawaii, Vermont, Maryland, Rhode Island, Delaware, Washingston, Connecticut, Maine, Maine's 1st District, Illinois, Oregon, New Mexico, Virginia, Colorado, New Hampshire, Minnesota, Michigan, Nevada, Wisconsin, Nebraska's 2nd District, Arizona, Florida, North Carolina.

Electoral Vote: Biden 334, Trump 204.
Popular Vote: Biden 76,000,000; Trump 60,750,000

**I didn't account for third party candidates at all since I don't think that they will be nearly as significant as they were in 2016.
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Old 10-15-2020, 11:54 PM
 
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Here's my prediction.

Trump states:
Nebraska's 3rd District, Nebraska, Wyoming, West Virginia, Oklahoma, North Dakota, South Dakota, Montana, Idaho, Kentucky, Alabama, Arkansas, Tennessee, Utah, Louisiana, Mississippi, Indiana, Kansas, Missouri, South Carolina, Alaska, Texas, Iowa, Ohio, Georgia, Maine's 2nd District

Biden States:
New York, New Jersey, California, Washington DC, Hawaii, Vermont, Maryland, Rhode Island, Delaware, Washingston, Connecticut, Maine, Maine's 1st District, Illinois, Oregon, New Mexico, Virginia, Colorado, New Hampshire, Minnesota, Michigan, Nevada, Wisconsin, Nebraska's 2nd District, Arizona, Florida, North Carolina.

Electoral Vote: Biden 334, Trump 204.
Popular Vote: Biden 76,000,000; Trump 60,750,000

**I didn't account for third party candidates at all since I don't think that they will be nearly as significant as they were in 2016.
Around that!!! Biden will be garner the great popular vote total in history of presidential elections!
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Old 10-16-2020, 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by jjbradleynyc View Post
What are your predictions for the Presidential Election 2020 popular vote?

Here are mine--

Donald Trump:

2016 popular vote: 62,984,828

2020 predicted popular vote: 64,550,000


Joe Biden:

2016 Hillary Clinton popular vote: 65,853,514

2020 predicted Joe Biden popular vote: 62,700,000



I think Trump's voter enthusiasm is through the roof, partially due to the Democrat's ANTIFA and BLM destructive riots, and the abolish/defund police proposals.

I think a lot of would-be Democrat voters are turned off this election, and won't vote, in part due to bad candidate in Biden, his worse VP candidate in Harris, and just frustration due to everything going on.

Chime in with predictions and opinion.
Cook put this out a couple of days ago. It allows you to change percentage of vote and turnout nationwide and shows you what the vote would look like.

Their last prediction had it as Biden 307, Trump 231

Trump winning Iowa, Ohio, North Carolina, Arizona, Texas, Georgia
Biden winning Florida, Virginia, Colorado, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania.

Popular vote

Biden 69.6 Million
Trump 64.1 million
https://cookpolitical.com/swingometer

My opinion. I trust Biden's lead in Arizona more than Florida. I think down ballot congressional races being close in Arizona in 2 districts not even thought to be swing districts along with Biden's lead gives him that.

This is actually why im skeptical of Biden in Florida. While he is doing well in the central Florida races, the South Florida races are pretty much toss ups.

I set my meters to a mix of Siena College, Marist and Emerson as they have a high rate of picking the winners in congressional races. And that is a better indicator than state wide polls.


So I came out with Biden +6

Biden 305
Trump 233

Biden 72.4
Trump 64.9
Turnout rate 55%, Near 2016

Bidden wins North Carolina, Arizona, Virginia, Colorado, Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania.
Trump wins Iowa, Ohio, Texas, Georgia and Florida.



The high end estimates get interesting

If Biden is losing non college white voters by just 20 points instead of 37, then he wins Georgia

If he is winning college grads by 4 instead of losing them by 2, then he is winning Ohio as well.
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Old 10-16-2020, 01:25 AM
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Here's my prediction.

Trump states:
Nebraska's 3rd District, Nebraska, Wyoming, West Virginia, Oklahoma, North Dakota, South Dakota, Montana, Idaho, Kentucky, Alabama, Arkansas, Tennessee, Utah, Louisiana, Mississippi, Indiana, Kansas, Missouri, South Carolina, Alaska, Texas, Iowa, Ohio, Georgia, Maine's 2nd District

Biden States:
New York, New Jersey, California, Washington DC, Hawaii, Vermont, Maryland, Rhode Island, Delaware, Washingston, Connecticut, Maine, Maine's 1st District, Illinois, Oregon, New Mexico, Virginia, Colorado, New Hampshire, Minnesota, Michigan, Nevada, Wisconsin, Nebraska's 2nd District, Arizona, Florida, North Carolina.

Electoral Vote: Biden 334, Trump 204.
Popular Vote: Biden 76,000,000; Trump 60,750,000

**I didn't account for third party candidates at all since I don't think that they will be nearly as significant as they were in 2016.
The Green Party candidate has no support at all this time. And the Libertarian seems to only be supported by the libertatians.
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Old 10-16-2020, 05:51 AM
 
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I'll go 53-45 Biden. The polls are showing +10, +12, but I expect the actual result to tighten at the election.
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Old 10-16-2020, 07:09 AM
 
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If you are right every one of ten opinion polls right now are wrong.

I would predict Biden will win 70,000,000 votes. I predict Trump will win no more than 60,000,000 votes. In other words, I see a 10,000,000 popular vote margin for Biden. The electoral college is far more complicated. Right now I'll predict Biden wins 300 electoral votes and Trumps win 238. However, if Biden loses it will because of another electoral college fluke. It will boil down to Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. If Biden loses, it will be because he loses one or two of these states by narrow margins and does not pick up Florida, Arizona, and North Carolina.
Your prediction sounds awfully like mine. I'm thinking Trump closes the margin to about 8.5 points. National polls are off by about the same as last time (1.1 points) and Biden wins by 7.4 points which is worth about 10 million votes.

Some of these predictions are just comical though (not this poster's, but others).

Some of us would look outside and see a clear blue sky and say "I predict sunny skies for the next few hours." Maybe we also checked the weather forecast too, which agrees that the chance of rain is low.

Others here, would look outside and see a clear blue sky, claim it is a purple sky and bring an umbrella, rain boots and a rain coat and also cancel their trip to a WWII veterans' cemetery. They'll check the forecast too and see that it says "sunny weather" and call it fake news because of one time when there was a sun shower.

Truly. That's pretty much what some of these predictions are like.
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