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Old 10-19-2021, 09:43 AM
 
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View the video before commenting on what is in it. I am looking for the truth in what happened in the election.
No, you're looking for confirmation of your assumptions. You're not finding any.

 
Old 10-19-2021, 10:50 AM
 
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Not true.
yes, it is true.

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Voter name and address might be public information....
and in the very next sentence you confirm that it's true.


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...but he withheld the name in his presentation since it is illegal to vote twice and the person will need to be charged with a crime for doing this.
there is nothing legally prohibiting him from putting forward information if he has evidence a crime has been committed.
 
Old 10-19-2021, 11:03 AM
 
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It would be nice if you or the other clown who is challenging it viewed the presentation ....
you're asking us to waste our time on something you are unable to summarize and you yourself admit can't be verified because of ayyadura's omission of any names and addresses.
 
Old 10-19-2021, 11:42 AM
 
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yes, it is true.


and in the very next sentence you confirm that it's true.



there is nothing legally prohibiting him from putting forward information if he has evidence a crime has been committed.
People are innocent until proven guilty, he could not give the name and address of the voter since the voter was not yet charged with a crime. It is not Dr. Shiva's job to publicly identify them. This was one example, there were multiple voters who did this. Again, if you viewed the video you would have known that.
 
Old 10-19-2021, 01:33 PM
 
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People are innocent until proven guilty,...
correct..... in a court of law. there is nothing preventing ayyadura from producing the names/addresses if there truly were duplicates. if i see tommy shoplifting at 7-11 a can say "i saw tommy shoplifting at 7-11" i don't have to wait till he's charged and/or convicted.


now, if i make that same claim and i know it isn't true then i open myself up to a defamation suit from tommy ( which may be the reason ayyadura isn't getting specific ).



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It is not Dr. Shiva's job to publicly identify them.
it is precisely his job to support his claims with evidence.
 
Old 10-19-2021, 02:23 PM
 
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392,000 bogus ballots, in a state they allege Biden won by 10,000
That's like me saying there were 500k bogus ballots in Texas a state that Trump won.
 
Old 10-20-2021, 11:13 AM
 
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correct..... in a court of law. there is nothing preventing ayyadura from producing the names/addresses if there truly were duplicates. if i see tommy shoplifting at 7-11 a can say "i saw tommy shoplifting at 7-11" i don't have to wait till he's charged and/or convicted.


now, if i make that same claim and i know it isn't true then i open myself up to a defamation suit from tommy ( which may be the reason ayyadura isn't getting specific ).




it is precisely his job to support his claims with evidence.
The evidence found from Dr. Shiva and his team will be provided in the court cases against individuals who voted twice or more in 2020. It obviously takes a long time to get through the court system, below is a link from heritage foundation on AZ election fraud cases - the latest one from 2020 was a case involving duplicate voting in the 2016 election.

https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud/search?state=AZ
 
Old 10-20-2021, 01:58 PM
 
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The evidence found from Dr. Shiva and his team will be provided in the court cases against individuals who voted twice or more in 2020. It obviously takes a long time to get through the court system, ......
voting twice is a criminal offense. if anybody had been charged with voting twice we'd already be aware of it once they were charged ( again, that's public record ).
 
Old 10-20-2021, 02:05 PM
 
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...the latest one from 2020 was a case involving duplicate voting in the 2016 election.

it's the only one that was from 2020 and in that case the culprit voted once in AZ and again in NV. it had nothing to do with what's going on in maricopa county. you have a list of unrelated incidents that were caught and charged. the list points to the system working.
 
Old 10-20-2021, 04:38 PM
 
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voting twice is a criminal offense. if anybody had been charged with voting twice we'd already be aware of it once they were charged ( again, that's public record ).
The point is convicted of voter fraud.
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