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Old 10-12-2021, 10:29 AM
 
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If the election wasn't stolen and really was won fair and square, democrats should have welcomed the investigations. ...
We did welcome each and every fair and impartial recount and audit. Arizona had already been recounted before this thing came up. We always stand by legitimate recounts.

No one likes a partisan hack job sponsored by secret donors, with hand picked workers (all of whom had a stated partisan bias) and limited access with leaked 'problems' that turn out to be bogus nonsense to gin up the base.

We know that this 'investigation' had one purpose only, and we know that if Trump had actually won Arizona it would never have happened. We know your true motive.

In substance the Arizona audit was no different than the January 6th uprising, the motive was identical.

We know your biases, we know your agenda. We know your only true purpose was to overturn a legitimate election, and we will not stand for it.

 
Old 10-12-2021, 01:11 PM
 
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He forces you to assume that the ballot images are required for tabulation. They are not. The paper ballots are the physical record of the election.

Pulitzer admits that the actual paper ballots were provided (and a subsequent hand recount showed that they were all there). Pulitzer also admits that the machine tallies were there on the Dominion EMS server and were correct.

Pulitzer throws out the question as to whether some of the ballots were the actual ballots that were scanned via the tabulators. Pulitzer claims that there were 284,412 ballot images that were "corrupt", "missing", "gone", "compromised" digital ballots - supposedly "one out of every ten ballots could not be confirmed as the actual ballot the voter used to vote".
Not true about tabulation, Pulitzer made no such statement. He said the physical ballot count matched the tabulator count, his only issue was with the digital image of the ballot from EMS not matching the physical ballot. I agree with representative Biggs, in that we don't know who won Maricopa County.
 
Old 10-12-2021, 01:47 PM
 
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Not true about tabulation, Pulitzer made no such statement. He said the physical ballot count matched the tabulator count, his only issue was with the digital image of the ballot from EMS not matching the physical ballot. I agree with representative Biggs, in that we don't know who won Maricopa County.
Pulitzer saying that the physical ballot count matched the tabulator count is acknowledging that the hand recount matches the certified machine count.

Nice of you to blow right past the actual explanation - the Dominion EMS ballot images were sent to the Senate on a separate hard drive because Arizona State Law required that the servers be maintained to handle an upcoming election and that necessitated archiving the images from the EMS and then removing them from the EMS.

KNOWN LIAR, GRIFTER, AND CON MAN JOVAN PULITZER IS LYING ABOUT MISSING/CORRUPTED BALLOT IMAGES.
 
Old 10-12-2021, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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Exactly right. Trump and his believers of the big lie are doing great harm to this nation.
How apropos!

The triumph of a demagogue is short-lived, and the ruins are eternal/Peguy

Those that joined the Trump cult don't realize it but there's no escape from it, they'll be part of that cult until the day they die, even if their Cult Leader confesses he lied to them for 6 years straight. Even that won't remove them from the cult.
 
Old 10-12-2021, 01:57 PM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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https://recorder.maricopa.gov/justth...a%20Report.pdf


Faulty Claim: Corrupt and Missing Ballot Images (Pg. 70 & 73)
The County provided all ballot images, pre and post adjudication, to the Senate on a two terabyte
hard drive on April 22, 2021. The server and tabulation equipment are not the place to find all ballot
images, as the County archived the data to ready the equipment for the statutorily required March
2021 jurisdictional election and for the audits by certified firms. These files have been maintained
and safely secured. Additionally, we have since reviewed a cloned copy of the hard drive provided
to the Senate and confirmed the ballot images were not corrupted and could be opened.

Analysis: The County archived the EMS data to prepare for a statutorily required election.
Ballot images were provided on a separate hard drive
 
Old 10-12-2021, 05:43 PM
 
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Originally Posted by djmilf View Post
Pulitzer saying that the physical ballot count matched the tabulator count is acknowledging that the hand recount matches the certified machine count.

Nice of you to blow right past the actual explanation - the Dominion EMS ballot images were sent to the Senate on a separate hard drive because Arizona State Law required that the servers be maintained to handle an upcoming election and that necessitated archiving the images from the EMS and then removing them from the EMS.
Pulitzer was likely using that Dominion EMS ballot image file for the physical ballot images, because his match rate would have been lower than around 90% match rate that was reported if he was using original data provided by MCBOS. Pretty absurd that this EMS data would have been archived so soon after a major election. Different directories could have been created to separate data for multiple elections. They should just rid of Dominion EMS entirely, Texas doesn't use it.
 
Old 10-13-2021, 07:52 AM
 
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Pulitzer was likely using that Dominion EMS ballot image file for the physical ballot images, because his match rate would have been lower than around 90% match rate that was reported if he was using original data provided by MCBOS.
Pulitzer was the one who got paid for inventing the pseudo "science" of kinematic artifacts and was the one who prompted the Cyber Ninjas to install perhaps 50 photography stations so that each and every Maricopa County ballot could be photographed twice. If Pulitzer was using the ballot images from the Dominion EMS for comparison, that just speaks to either his inability to understand the data that he was working with or his inability to work with the other members of the audit team.

Pulitzer's entire body of work was left out of the final audit report. That speaks volumes to the credibility that the other auditors gave to Pulitzer's contribution to the audit.

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Pretty absurd that this EMS data would have been archived so soon after a major election. Different directories could have been created to separate data for multiple elections.
There's a limit to the amount of disk size available on any computer system. MCBOS has stated that, per Arizona State law, they needed to archive the ballot images to make room on the computer system for an upcoming election. MCBOS not only saved all of the ballot images from the Dominion EMS, they sent them to the Arizona Senate for use in the "grift disguised as an audit".

Making different directories doesn't resolve the disk space issue nor satisfy the statutory requirement cited.

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They should just rid of Dominion EMS entirely, Texas doesn't use it.
28 states use the Dominion EMS. No one has found any issues with the system. Audits have proven that the Dominion EMS worked in Georgia, Michigan, and now Arizona.

At best, the Cyber Ninjas have levelled baseless and ultimately debunked charges.
 
Old 10-13-2021, 11:11 AM
 
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Originally Posted by djmilf View Post
There's a limit to the amount of disk size available on any computer system. MCBOS has stated that, per Arizona State law, they needed to archive the ballot images to make room on the computer system for an upcoming election. MCBOS not only saved all of the ballot images from the Dominion EMS, they sent them to the Arizona Senate for use in the "grift disguised as an audit".

Making different directories doesn't resolve the disk space issue nor satisfy the statutory requirement cited.



28 states use the Dominion EMS. No one has found any issues with the system. Audits have proven that the Dominion EMS worked in Georgia, Michigan, and now Arizona.

At best, the Cyber Ninjas have levelled baseless and ultimately debunked charges.
Again, they never indicated how much disk drive space was available on the server for the March 2021 election - was archiving data required? If they were going to "archive" data they should have made a full copy of the EMS server with 2020 election results prior to deleting the data needed on it for the forensic audit and sent that to the Senate. Did they send a couple of tape volumes in April to the Senate with no explanation about what was on it? There was such poor communication from MCBOS who knows what happened.

MCBOS is trying to claim there were two certified forensic audits done by the election machine vendors to prove the servers would work correctly for upcoming elections. Those were machine audits, they were not anything close to being a forensic audit. The companies were only certified to check the election software and that it would work correctly on the machines used in the election.
 
Old 10-13-2021, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Desert southwest US
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https://rumble.com/vnd0l1-episode-13...stic-terr.html


Russ Vought, John Solomon, Jason Miller, Tiffany Polifko, discuss GETTR, the continued debt ceiling debate, and how the DOJ is targeting school board parents.
Rumble is not a credible source. Have you checked to see who else is carrying this story? If other credible sources are, that would help validate your point. : )
 
Old 10-13-2021, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Denver CO
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it's a good thing Trump wasn't allowed to steal the election, then.
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