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Old 06-21-2008, 09:57 PM
 
Location: Burkina Faso
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You realize that nuclear power isn't a credible alternative to oil right?
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Old 06-21-2008, 10:29 PM
 
Location: Slaughter Creek, Travis County
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McCain is from Arizona. He couldn't find oil if he poured out of his shoes and the instructions to remove it were on the bottom of his shoe heel. Same for Obama.

Neither one of these numbnuts has no idea as to how energy is produced or developed. It's all about consumer and that is the problem.

McCain's gas tax holiday made my girlfriend Heidi Klum excited. I had to calm her down and tell her all the world does not run on Volkswagen. Yes, I am full of crap - as much as our future candidates.

And Ron Paul and Ralph Nader are equally idiotic. Find me a President who will select a DOE chairman/woman who understand how oil is produced and can make energy independance a number 1 priority, I'll vote for him or her. As long their references check out.
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Old 06-23-2008, 09:17 AM
 
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McCain is from Arizona. He couldn't find oil if he poured out of his shoes and the instructions to remove it were on the bottom of his shoe heel. Same for Obama.

Neither one of these numbnuts has no idea as to how energy is produced or developed. It's all about consumer and that is the problem.

McCain's gas tax holiday made my girlfriend Heidi Klum excited. I had to calm her down and tell her all the world does not run on Volkswagen. Yes, I am full of crap - as much as our future candidates.

And Ron Paul and Ralph Nader are equally idiotic. Find me a President who will select a DOE chairman/woman who understand how oil is produced and can make energy independance a number 1 priority, I'll vote for him or her. As long their references check out.
You are certainly the authority on epistemology. I would imagine most take what you say with a grain of salt +1 [me].
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Old 06-23-2008, 10:05 AM
 
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I have a simple question, often ignored.

Why should we expand drilling, when the oil companies have not taken advantage or used the 64 Million acres of current leased oil property?


This is the million dollar question to me. And until it is answered, I can't support signing over even more of our coastline.

If it will be so advantageous, why haven't oil companies used what they have rights to already?????

This speaks volumes to me. Anyone have an answer to this one?
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Old 06-23-2008, 11:16 AM
 
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I have a simple question, often ignored.

Why should we expand drilling, when the oil companies have not taken advantage or used the 64 Million acres of current leased oil property?


Both recent threads regarding oil drilling have come to a standstill when this question is posed.

It reinforces my belief that this renewed push to obtain even more land for drilling is just political posturing and a desperate attempt to sway voters.
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Old 06-23-2008, 12:08 PM
 
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They make more moolah the longer that oil sits in the ground; an outstanding investment; low risk and large returns.
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Old 06-23-2008, 12:44 PM
 
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Remember the need is for sweet light crude and that is becoming in short supply and more difficult and expensive to get to. Not all oil is equal.
WINTERSHALL: Types of oil (http://www.wintershall.com/34.html - broken link)

Brent and WTI leading grades
Brent and WTI are both light sweet crude oils – low-sulphur, light oils for which there is the greatest demand worldwide. Out of these light crude oils, an above-average proportion of gasoline can be obtained in the refineries. Less in demand, and therefore significantly cheaper, are the heavy crude oils from which a higher proportion of heavy heating oil can be produced. One such grade, for instance is Maya (Mexico). Fuels can also be obtained from heavy crude oil, but at a considerably higher processing cost.



Wintershall mainly produces light and intermediate oils. Light crude oils with a low sulfurcontent are most in demand, because they yield a high proportion of gasoline and high-value products for the chemical industry. This category includes the type of oil Wintershallproduces at Aitingen in Southern Germany, as well as As Sarah and Nakhla types produced in Libya. The oils produced at Barnstorf and Emlichheim are intermediate oils, usedmainly for diesel and heating oil. The heavier the oil, the higher its processing costs. Lube oils and bitumen are at the end of the processing chain.



The grades produced by Wintershall include Amna, Bu Attiffel, and Es Sider (all Libya), Dubai (Dubai), and Russian Export Blend (Russia).
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Old 06-23-2008, 12:59 PM
 
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They make more moolah the longer that oil sits in the ground; an outstanding investment; low risk and large returns.
Yet we are being led to believe that by turning over even more of our country's beautiful coastline in Florida and California and entrusting it with the oil companies, we will all benefit. I'm not buying it. Let them use what they already have an see what happens. If they drill in the areas they already control, and it results in lower gas prices, then reconsider tapping other areas. Hopefully, by that time we will have moved far enough in another direction that it won't be necessary.
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Old 06-23-2008, 01:01 PM
 
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I have a simple question, often ignored.

Why should we expand drilling, when the oil companies have not taken advantage or used the 64 Million acres of current leased oil property?




Songgirl:""Both recent threads regarding oil drilling have come to a standstill when this question is posed.

It reinforces my belief that this renewed push to obtain even more land for drilling is just political posturing and a desperate attempt to sway voters.""


Two of the best posts of this thread .

I asked it , too...I haven't had an answer yet????
Why not?

Why do you suppose the oil companies are NOT using the wells they ALREADY HAVE on land they have already leased????


gee YA THINK THEY'RE SCREWING US JUST FOR MORE PROFITS ?

NAAAAWWWWW! Its' speculation, OPEC, "supply and demand", chipmunks farting....anything but screwing us because they CAN!
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Old 06-23-2008, 01:06 PM
 
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Will these deposits yield light sweet crude which is the source of much gasoline and in increasingly short supply and more expensive to get at?
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