McCain will score with offshore drilling: (environmentalists, million, elect, money)
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We're wasting our time with oil - the planets 75% water!!
Thursday June 1, 2006 8:41 AM CDT - By: Michael Kwan (http://www.mobilemag.com/feedback.php?content=8115&who=9721830432 - broken link) Prototype car runs 100 miles on four ounces of water as fuel
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While his unique electrolysis process – working simply with water and electricity – was originally designed to work in welding factories as a replacement for acetylene torches, a whole new application has come to light from Denny Klein, who recently filed a patent on his solution. He has converted his 1994 Ford Escort to run either as a water-gas hybrid, or on water alone.
While the tip of the welder is cool to the touch, the water-powered torch can burn through charcoal and get tungsten to "light up like a sparkler." But when it comes to powering a vehicle, this prototype could drive for 100 miles on only four ounces of water. Technically, the car isn't running on water, because the H20 is converted to HHO gas. This is said to provide the "atomic power of hydrogen", while maintaining the "chemical stability of water."
UPDATE:
Water-Powered Car Demonstrated in Japan (Video)
Wednesday June 18, 2008 12:24 PM CDT - By: Michael Kwan (http://www.mobilemag.com/feedback.php?content=15557&who=9721830432 - broken link)
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A full two years ago, I wrote about a prototype car that runs on water (http://www.mobilemag.com/content/100/354/C8115/ - broken link). Since then, no updates have come from the developer and we're not entirely sure if it was just a hoax all along. For this time around, we see another car that is powered completely by good old H2O and it emits absolutely no pollution whatsoever.
Developed by Genepax in Japan, this commuter vehicle is able to travel at 80km/h for one hour on just a single litre of water. The concept is much the same as other fuel cell vehicles, except you don't need to feed the car with straight hydrogen. The Water Energy System (WES) and Membrane Electrode Assembly (MEA) are used to separate the hydrogen from the oxygen in water. Details are slim by they say this is accomplished through some sort of chemical reaction.
Genepax is currently shopping around its technology to various automakers, so we're not sure when (and if) these water-powered cars will ever make it into production.
Yea but these dems will come up with an excuse for us using too much water!!
Or better yet, they will want to nationalize the use of all water !!
How odd is it that Obama and Al Gore show up in Michigan where the economy is totally bottomed out because of US made cars and yet they sit there and act like they are the greatest thing on earth.
Thanks to people like Al Gore they have destroyed our auto manufacturing in this country for good and with it when millions of good paying jobs.
Why didnt someone ask Obama and Gore how they are planning on fixing the job market in Michigan now since they are two liberals who destroyed it in the first place.
Obama wont vote for drilling meaning less cars will be needed yet he has the guts to show up in Michigan.
Anyone ask Al Gore how get got to Michigan????
I will tell you, his own private Lear Jet, that is how, using more fuel then all the cars on the roads in Detriot in one shot.
Yea but these dems will come up with an excuse for us using too much water!!
Or better yet, they will want to nationalize the use of all water !!
How odd is it that Obama and Al Gore show up in Michigan where the economy is totally bottomed out because of US made cars and yet they sit there and act like they are the greatest thing on earth.
Thanks to people like Al Gore they have destroyed our auto manufacturing in this country for good and with it when millions of good paying jobs.
Why didnt someone ask Obama and Gore how they are planning on fixing the job market in Michigan now since they are two liberals who destroyed it in the first place.
Obama wont vote for drilling meaning less cars will be needed yet he has the guts to show up in Michigan.
Anyone ask Al Gore how get got to Michigan????
I will tell you, his own private Lear Jet, that is how, using more fuel then all the cars on the roads in Detriot in one shot.
Thank you we can always count on you to bring a discussion back to basics.
Fox, CNN, MSNBC are news-atainment. Not real news.
When news is boring, that's when you know it's unbiased and real.
Precisely. Anyone that thinks any U.S. cable news station should be taken as fair and balanced in terms of politics are the same folks that decry an Al-Jazeera affiliate in the U.S. Heaven forbid we mix up the propaganda dose once in awhile!
The mass transit systems in Europe mentioned in previous post would be another idea to help lessen the dependence on gas. I spent 10 days in Italy, and traveled all over without a car. I wonder why we've never invested in something like that? I'd ditch my car in a heartbeat if I could get everywhere I needed like they do over there. Not only that, as a woman going out sometimes by myself I never felt uncomfortable on those cars.
We should open up ANWR and all avenues for the short term if need be, but long term fixes are really needed. I also like riding my bike. But hey, I live in the desert. Ever went over 10 miles in 115 degrees? Not a fun trip.
I did ditch my SUV over a year ago for a much more fuel efficient vehicle, but as I said I'd get rid of it completely if we had adequate mass transit, or I could ride my bike to work every day.
Precisely. Anyone that thinks any U.S. cable news station should be taken as fair and balanced in terms of politics are the same folks that decry an Al-Jazeera affiliate in the U.S. Heaven forbid we mix up the propaganda dose once in awhile!
As someone who worked as part of it, I reject the American mainstream news media as a whole and I believe that anyone who believes things based solely on what they hear through it (not just "libs" but people who watch FAUX rather than CNN or MSNBC)
The whole ad-hom "libs" thing is an early last resort for irrational cowards who cannot think outside a black-or-white, one-or-the-other ideological dichotomy - namely, people who are utterly incapable of thinking for themselves. This is not about conservative or liberal, but about doing the right thing. And robbing Peter to pay Paul - directing a monumental effort and capital investment in a hasty attempt to make the US self-sufficient in regards to petroleum rather than investing it in renewable, sustainable energy - is not the right thing. BTW, *Paul* is Big Oil.
Hey Fleet (yes, that was directed mostly at you), since you know where all the oil is, you don't suppose taking immense amounts of liquid substance out of the ground beneath the nation's breadbasket (the Midwest) would cause any sort of threat to the arable land there that helps feed you?
As someone who worked as part of it, I reject the American mainstream news media as a whole and I believe that anyone who believes things based solely on what they hear through it (not just "libs" but people who watch FAUX rather than CNN or MSNBC)
The whole ad-hom "libs" thing is an early last resort for irrational cowards who cannot think outside a black-or-white, one-or-the-other ideological dichotomy - namely, people who are utterly incapable of thinking for themselves. This is not about conservative or liberal, but about doing the right thing. And robbing Peter to pay Paul - directing a monumental effort and capital investment in a hasty attempt to make the US self-sufficient in regards to petroleum rather than investing it in renewable, sustainable energy - is not the right thing. BTW, *Paul* is Big Oil.
Going by actual statistics, those "other" stations are actually more of a "Faux" station than FOX NEWS. See below.
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Hey Fleet (yes, that was directed mostly at you), since you know where all the oil is, you don't suppose taking immense amounts of liquid substance out of the ground beneath the nation's breadbasket (the Midwest) would cause any sort of threat to the arable land there that helps feed you?
With today's technology, no. Also, the biggest reserve is located well north of the nation's breadbasket. And you didn't answer my question: Do you think at least some of our reserves (at the locations I mentioned) should be used?
With today's technology, no. Also, the biggest reserve is located well north of the nation's breadbasket. And you didn't answer my question: Do you think at least some of our reserves (at the locations I mentioned) should be used?
Well, north of the nation's breadbasket would be called "Canada," for one. I know they grow large amounts of wheat and other crops as far north as North Dakota and Minnesota. And I don't think there are 10 billion gallons of shale oil there between, say, Nebraska and Iowa. Say, did you know that shale oil does not produce gasoline or diesel and really shouldn't be counted as crude inventory?
And as far as using the reserves - no. Save that for a real emergency. For now, it's time for us to go to the moon again - that is, to make what people think can't work, work. Renewable energy. Oil will still be around, but it will no longer be front and center. Right now this is not a real emergency. $4/gallon gas is not really a big deal, folks - it's just the point that got people talking. For now, subsidize airlines and truckers (this is better than a full-on bailout if those industries collapse, and that would help keep food prices in check) and increase production if possible at the sites that are currently being drilled (they are still around). And as for regular people, drive less, walk/bike more. People need to get off their fat, lazy asses and use your own power to get yourself around. And where applicable, use mass transit. Use the car only when you really need to.
Well, north of the nation's breadbasket would be called "Canada," for one. I know they grow large amounts of wheat and other crops as far north as North Dakota and Minnesota. And I don't think there are 10 billion gallons of shale oil there between, say, Nebraska and Iowa. Say, did you know that shale oil does not produce gasoline or diesel and really shouldn't be counted as crude inventory?
The largest reserve is in Canada/Montana/North Dakota. The more mild areas, like Nebraska, Iowa and Oklahoma grow more crops. California's Central Valley also grows much crops.
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And as far as using the reserves - no. Save that for a real emergency. For now, it's time for us to go to the moon again - that is, to make what people think can't work, work. Renewable energy. Oil will still be around, but it will no longer be front and center. Right now this is not a real emergency. $4/gallon gas is not really a big deal, folks - it's just the point that got people talking. For now, subsidize airlines and truckers (this is better than a full-on bailout if those industries collapse, and that would help keep food prices in check) and increase production if possible at the sites that are currently being drilled (they are still around). And as for regular people, drive less, walk/bike more. People need to get off their fat, lazy asses and use your own power to get yourself around. And where applicable, use mass transit. Use the car only when you really need to
So you think we should still depend on foreign oil? Fortunately, a majority of Americans don't agree. I believe the figure is 70% of Americans who favor actually using our own oil. After all, why not? China is drilling in the Pacific and Cuba in the Atlantic.
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