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Old 10-08-2008, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Home is where the heart is
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Where's that dead horse? Subject's been brought up too many times already. Bo-o-o-ring, and really, what does this have to do with the election? I'm a dem, by the way. But this is starting to compete with the birth certificate nonsense for number of times it's been brought up. Enough.
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Old 10-08-2008, 09:20 AM
 
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Start here, Barbie.

newsminer.com • Alaska biologists kill wolf pups to help caribou herd population
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Old 10-08-2008, 09:24 AM
 
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Here you go, Barbie.

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"it's important to stay ahead of them." Bears and eagles were taken at every opportunity; the level of harvest would be described today as "generous." Wolf populations were addressed in a different manner. The stories of the tribes, clans, and bands tell that they knew the location of almost all the wolf dens in their traditional hunting areas. People regularly culled wolf cubs at their dens to reduce wolf numbers; this was known as denning. The quantitative effects of those control efforts on predator populations are impossible to assess, but it is conventional to assert that reductions in average predator populations were substantial.


Wolves, Bears, and Their Prey in Alaska: Biological and Social Challenges in Wildlife Management

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Old 10-08-2008, 09:43 AM
 
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Again, NONE OF YOUR POSTS goes back to the PRIMITIVE CLAIM. Like most Repugnicians you are skirting the orginial claim. Read through the posts and then come back with verifiable proof that PRIMITIVE people managed the wolves by killing the pups.

As an ecologist I fully understand that there are challenges in environmental management, but you need to read the ORIGINAL POST.

IT IS AGAINST THE LAW FOR ANYONE TO USE THE PRACTICE OF DENNING.

Again, if you are an Anthropologist you will be able to provide the ORGINAL proof that I asked for. Cheers.
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Old 10-08-2008, 09:50 AM
 
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I am not a Republican, Barbie. Thanks for the laugh, though.

Did you even read the information in the scientific journal that I posted? No, I'm not an anthropologist, but I provided the 'verifiable proof that PRIMITIVE people managed the wolves by killing the pups. "

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IT IS AGAINST THE LAW FOR ANYONE TO USE THE PRACTICE OF DENNING.
I am aware of that. It's been so for forty years.

Not sure what you mean by "original proof"; you asked for a scientific journal and I supplied one.

Once again, Barbie, this is from a scientific journal in reference to the indigenous people of Alaska:

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"it's important to stay ahead of them." Bears and eagles were taken at every opportunity; the level of harvest would be described today as "generous." Wolf populations were addressed in a different manner. The stories of the tribes, clans, and bands tell that they knew the location of almost all the wolf dens in their traditional hunting areas. People regularly culled wolf cubs at their dens to reduce wolf numbers; this was known as denning. The quantitative effects of those control efforts on predator populations are impossible to assess, but it is conventional to assert that reductions in average predator populations were substantial.
Now get back to screeching that I'm a Republican; I'm sure I'm not the only one here today who could use a good laugh.
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Old 10-08-2008, 09:56 AM
 
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Already been covered multiple times, quit trolling.


I just wish McCain and Palin were covering the economic meltdown story MULTIPLE TIMES. Sure!
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Old 10-08-2008, 10:11 AM
 
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The fact that Frau Palin condones this barbaric practice is not as horrific as the fact she actually participates. It will be so good when she finally fades back into the woodwork and we are no longer subject to hearing her obnoxious voice, listening to her programmed rhetoric and looking at her void of soul face.
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Old 10-08-2008, 10:17 AM
 
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Once again, Barbie, this is from a scientific journal in reference to the indigenous people of Alaska:
You provided a book. Not a respected journal, big difference.
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Old 10-08-2008, 10:33 AM
 
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http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d... (broken link)
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Old 10-08-2008, 10:39 AM
 
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And you know this because you are an Anthropologist?

I don't think that primitive people were thinking about controlling the populations of predators. I think they were more interested in eating that night, or finding shelter from the harsh environment.

Use the gray matter once in a while to think through a situation before you start espousing CRAP.
I'm not an anthropologist, I'm a historian, though I took a couple anthropology classes in college. It doesn't take an anthropologist, however, to read about the Alaskan Natives and their traditional ways. Lots of good books out on the subject, and I still have access to journals via databases. What I stated about them is entirely correct: in order to keep the wolf population from getting too high to where the wolves were overpopulated and destroyed their prey populations (the moose, caribour, etc., that the Natives depended on for survival), they killed wolf pups in their dens. The Natives were smarter than you seem to be giving them credit for. If they were still allowed to do so I doubt the aerial predator control would be needed for the most part, but then we'd have 300 threads here on how the Alaskan natives are evil wolf killers and Palin hasn't stopped them from exterminating wolves.
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