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Tell me you still think Obama hasn't embraced socialism.
I've read Alinski's Rules for radicals. And I wrote a paper on Maoist pedagogy. I wanted to broaden my mind in college. Had no affect on me.. I'm a big time capitalist. It made me appreciate the capitalist system as I know that marxism does not work.. are you trying to say anyone that has read and studied Alinsky is a socialist? I better not tell you about my little red book.
Based on the above I do not see why people associate Barack socialism? He is not asking for centralized control on all economic activities.
But you got it all wrong. You need to compare "socialism" to "Communism," no Marxism. What is Communism?
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Communism sounds like a good idea. In the purest form of communism, all people hold all land, factories and so on in trust, as it were. In this way, all goods are shared equally by the people. There is no poverty — nor is there an upper class. In the Depression-era America of the 1930s, many people joined the Communist Party because it seemed to be sympathetic to the needs and desires of the worker, rather than to the bosses.
I've read Alinski's Rules for radicals. And I wrote a paper on Maoist pedagogy. I wanted to broaden my mind in college. Had no affect on me.. I'm a big time capitalist. It made me appreciate the capitalist system as I know that marxism does not work..
Ditto. I took a semester-long course on Marxism and Socialism in college. Then, I made a trip to the Czech Republic within a year from the fall of the Wall. I met, for the first time, a cousin who grew up under Russian--and thus, communist--domination. The stories he told! I tell you, when I came back to the States, I felt like dropping to my knees and kissing the tarmac. The idea of Obama as a socialist or communist is so far off-the-mark. I just wish people really knew. Capitalism all the way--you betcha'--but with a bit more compassion and equity of opportunity worked into the system.
I've read Alinski's Rules for radicals. And I wrote a paper on Maoist pedagogy. I wanted to broaden my mind in college. Had no affect on me.. I'm a big time capitalist. It made me appreciate the capitalist system as I know that marxism does not work.. are you trying to say anyone that has read and studied Alinsky is a socialist? I better not tell you about my little red book.
If Alinski was the only one....
Do you know much about Chicago politics? It's far from center or right leaning. Not all of the dem's are radicals there but somehow Obama managed to find the ones that are radicals
I don't think reading things like that are damaging at all. Consumption of information....freedom of information.... all good things.
Do you know much about Chicago politics? It's far from center or right leaning. Not all of the dem's are radicals there but somehow Obama managed to find the ones that are radicals
I don't think reading things like that are damaging at all. Consumption of information....freedom of information.... all good things.
Please read the article I posted, just for you? I'd like to know what you think.
Ditto. I took a semester-long course on Marxism and Socialism in college. Then, I made a trip to the Czech Republic within a year from the fall of the Wall. I met, for the first time, a cousin who grew up under Russian--and thus, communist--domination. The stories he told! I tell you, when I came back to the States, I felt like dropping to my knees and kissing the tarmac. The idea of Obama as a socialist or communist is so far off-the-mark. I just wish people really knew. Capitalism all the way--you betcha'--but with a bit more compassion and equity of opportunity worked into the system.
Socialism is a Utopian idea. Lenin/Stalin was a totalitarian dictator who killed to hold on to the socialist state. Pure socialist states don't work because it's not human. Humans are unique. Stalin and Lenin were both trying to keep things in line but those pesky people fighting the system.....It's ironic in ways because here in America those pesky people have that right and some still have this crazy idea that everyone would just be happy under that sort of regime and would never need to protest. You don't hear about the people that protest under regimes like that but their bones in the pits tell all you need to know to the like of millions upon millions.
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Socialism is a Utopian idea. Lenin/Stalin was a totalitarian dictator who killed to hold on to the socialist state. Pure socialist states don't work because it's not human. Humans are unique. Stalin and Lenin were both trying to keep things in line but those pesky people fighting the system.....It's ironic in ways because here in America those pesky people have that right and some still have this crazy idea that everyone would just be happy under that sort of regime and would never need to protest. You don't here about the people that protest under regimes like that but their bones in the pits tell all you need to know to the like of millions upon millions.
So if Socialism is a utopian idea... why is Obama's name being equated with socialism? Not challenging you here seriously, you seem to know what you are talking about, and I would like your opinion.
Please read the article I posted, just for you? I'd like to know what you think.
And then I have a question about HVAC for you.
I've started reading it but 8 pages will take a more in depth look than I'm willing to do tonight. I will read it in the morning. If you have a question about HVAC DM me.
The tax cuts. For the rich, that is. It turned a budget surplus at the end of Clinton's presidency into the largest federal deficit in history, and the national debt doubled at the same time. And now when housing fell off their high prices (it fell because most people had no money to buy a house due to poor getting poorer), some banks failed because they couldn't cover the losses. And when some banks failed, other banks got scared and stopped lending... say hello to the credit freeze.
And we ended up having to bail 'em out in order to avoid getting into a Depression. Nice going Bush and Republicans.
OMG, you really dont have any Idea of what is going on.
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