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Old 10-21-2008, 06:31 PM
 
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The businesses are opting to file for bankruptcy now or the first of the year next year before Obama raises the taxes on them and before Obama changes the bankruptcy laws.

Good luck with your jobs!
I asked you last night to post evidence of this, if you don't then you are clearly a troll.
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Old 10-21-2008, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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I asked you last night to post evidence of this, if you don't then you are clearly a troll.
Someone is a troll if they can't prove something but you are not a troll even though you can't prove your side. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm How funny that is. I am not saying that I believe what he said but calling him a troll because you don't believe him shows a lack of debating skills.
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Old 10-21-2008, 06:35 PM
 
Location: Gurnee IL.
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I asked you last night to post evidence of this, if you don't then you are clearly a troll.

Why are you accusing him of being a troll. I've heard that too. It's often a tactic by trolls to dispute factual information and call the person posting legitimate information a troll; often he/she is a troll trying to wreak havoc themselves by accusing others of being a troll.

I ask you, are you a troll?
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Old 10-21-2008, 06:36 PM
 
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Why are you accusing him of being a troll. I've heard that too. It's often a tactic by trolls to dispute factual information and call the person posting legitimate information a troll; often he/she is a troll him/her self.

I ask you, are you a troll?
Good one. Said better than me. Rep to you. Oops, I have to pass some around. It is the thought that counts.
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Old 10-21-2008, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Triangle, North Carolina
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Default America at a Crossroads

This is rather difficult to say, but what is the difference between them, outside of the Iraq issue.

IMO, this is a full re-run of 1976 as I have posted on other threads.
We have Jimmy Carter redux, Obama running against Gerald Ford redux, McCain.

Both are open borders, yet claim to want to protect American jobs and like Carter, Obama for some reason is getting support from the labor unions which makes one wonder what they have morphed into.

Both are tax and spend big government liberals, period. Carter/Obama is right out there folks about taking your money (Taxing the Rich) (Class Envy) spreading the wealth! Haven't we forget that oppresive taxation delutes job opportunities. Using the fuel prices as comparison. Did the companies pay? Not really, have you noticed food and product prices lately. Like taxation, it will be passed on to you with even more percentage increases and unemployment, Ah! a Jimmy Carter flashback.
Now, don't worry all of the Fordites/McCain lovers out there! The GOP wants to offset any supposed tax cut with a tax increase hidden in the taxation of monthly medical benefit costs and medical costs. This in itself is a double digit tax increase! The 5k per year so called credit is pure smoke and mirrors.

Both are full fledged world police, there is no difference ladies and gentlemen. Iraq smack, with Obama you will have the Africa Corp, which is being started by Bush, hmmm, isn't that interesting. McCain wants to continue with bases in Iraq. Again, same thing different locations.

Both support the ever non ending funding and increased funding of one of the largest "Big Government" embarrassments of our modern time. The massive failure of our Government School system. We are taxed to oblivion, you can compare this to the mortgage failures. What is the one reason you NEVER hear on TV from our propaganda media? Foreclosure due to massive property tax levies to fund our failed Government Schools. Do we have any folks here from Jersey, NY, IL, MD, CA, etc., There are some areas within the listed states where folks are stuck with property tax levies north of 1,000.00 per month!!!!! How many folks are taxed out of their homes? What is Carter/Obama and Ford/McCain's approach? Both want to continue down the same trail. How sad.

The best or worst depending on your nature and the last item I have is the tit for tat banter of our wonderful candidates on who is the people and not government President.
It is no secret that Obama is an avowed Socialist. Like most far left Democrats he is glad to admit he is. The difference with McCain is he is still in denile! Uh John, you voted for the government takeover of our financial institutions, you support neo-con foreign policy, and now you want the taxpayer to bail out the past due mortgages by the government re-appraising the homes under current adjusted values and the government forgiving the difference. That is socialism John!

Yes folks we are at a crossroads and we keep making the wrong turns. Our day is coming. We have been sliding down the slope for 20 straight years with the Bush/Clinton dynasty and it will continue with either guy on 20 January 09. At least Reagan was able to stop the madness of Carter, but in today's world I do not see anything on the horizon to stop our slide. The wall is coming. How fast will we hit it?

Basically, we might have won the war in Iraq, but we have lost our war at home.
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Old 10-21-2008, 06:37 PM
 
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Someone is a troll if they can't prove something but you are not a troll even though you can't prove your side. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm How funny that is. I am not saying that I believe what he said but calling him a troll because you don't believe him shows a lack of debating skills.
The poster stated something that is supposedly fact, I post links for stuff like that.
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Old 10-21-2008, 06:38 PM
 
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Ah, so we don't even need two parties now, nor diverging viewpoints? We all need to be ultra-liberals? See, this is EXACTLY the type of crap that has many of us fearing for our country.
The Republicans succeeded with you, I see. Strange, how they can do such an easy number on some people.
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Old 10-21-2008, 06:39 PM
 
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The poster stated something that is supposedly fact, I post links for stuff like that.
Still no reason to call someone a troll. That was uncalled for on your part.
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Old 10-21-2008, 06:40 PM
 
Location: Gurnee IL.
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Still no reason to call someone a troll. That was uncalled for on your part.

Yep----
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Old 10-21-2008, 06:40 PM
 
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The Republicans succeeded with you, I see. Strange, how they can do such an easy number on some people.
I find it strange how so many people are taken in by Obama. Both candidates are not good for the country, but especially Obama. I see that you drink the Obama kool-aid.
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