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Point of order here: Todd Palin is not nor has ever been the "leader" of the Alaska Independence Party. Membership in the party is a right under the Constitution of the United States (ip cit. Bill of Rights: Amendments I-X). You can claim to be the reincarnation of Queen Victoria or Julius Caesar if you don't mind serving a little time in a padded room, if that's what blows your dress up.
Idiocy or ignorance is not against the law, and political views can be as wild as you want them to be. We still haven't instituted the thought police, and conversations are still not censored - hence, this forum.
But claiming Todd Palin was the leader of the AIP is rumor-mongering. I was once a left-wing hippy kind of guy, and now I'm a moderate Republican (OK on abortion, mid-stream on gun control, that kind of Republican). My kids are voting for Obama, and I say more power to them. I don't see eye-to-eye with the AIP aims, but live and let live.
Another point of order: The oil in Alaska is not the united States' oil. It belongs to the State of Alaska and to the North Slope Borough (Native Communities). It does not sit of federal lands. Just a little factoid there.
Saratodd's husband belonged to a group that wanted Alaska to secede from the union. Is THAT what Bachmann and Sara think of as anti- and un-American?
I do.
Seems the Palins are getting a big pass on this......
Well, again, no answer to the question.
The POINT was:
WHO decides what IS or ISN'T Anti-American?
See the differences of opinion?
So WHO would be the big dictator of what is or isn't "AMERICAN".
If Obama becomes president, Alaska will secede from the Union. Palin will not allow Alaska to be turned into Chicago, IL. Alaska has enough oil to prosper on its own.
wow, you reallyl think sarah has that kind of power?
Another point of order: The oil in Alaska is not the united States' oil. It belongs to the State of Alaska and to the North Slope Borough (Native Communities). It does not sit of federal lands. Just a little factoid there.
Prudhoe Bay is on Alaskan land, but ANWR and the National Petroleum Reserve are on federal land.
If American citizens decided to do this again, how different would that be to the actions of the American Revolutionists?
There would be a big difference: representation. The American Revolution was based in large part on our lack of representation in Parliament. We don't have that now - we have representation in the federal government.
Back then, we didn't have the right to petition the government for a redress of grievances. Now we do. Now we can propose amendments to the Constitution. Now we can change our government every two years by electing or re-electing 85% of our legislature.
There would be a big difference: representation. The American Revolution was based in large part on our lack of representation in Parliament. We don't have that now - we have representation in the federal government.
Back then, we didn't have the right to petition the government for a redress of grievances. Now we do. Now we can propose amendments to the Constitution. Now we can change our government every two years by electing or re-electing 85% of our legislature.
You're right. I'm not advocating secession. I started out in this thread this morning saying that people talking about secession are not being anti-American, that talking about our dissatisfaction, throwing ideas around, even outrageous ideas, is part of the process in how Americans get things done. I think secession is an extreme solution, but if people are going to entertain the idea, I want it to be out in the open, where people can argue and protest and shout insults at each other, not a secret movement, not an underground campaign.
Debunked? It's common knowledge that her husband belonged to this party, and that as late as last year Palin spoke before the party, encouraging them to keep up the good work.
Yes, debunked. If you had a clue you would have actually read the Alaskan Independence Party platform. No where in their platform will you find anything that mentions seceding from the Union. This is a deliberate lie by the Obama media, and you naturally believe every word.
Quote:
The Alaskan Independence Party's goal is the vote we were entitled to in 1958, one choice from among the following four alternatives:
1) Remain a Territory.
2) Become a separate and Independent Nation.
3) Accept Commonwealth status.
4) Become a State.
Prudhoe Bay is on Alaskan land, but ANWR and the National Petroleum Reserve are on federal land.
JavaPhil is 100% correct. (I would've repped you mal, but "I have to spread it around" first) All the oil being produced in Alaska is being produced on state or privately owned lands. Not a single drop of oil being exported from Alaska is coming from federal lands.
If Obama becomes president, Alaska will secede from the Union. Palin will not allow Alaska to be turned into Chicago, IL. Alaska has enough oil to prosper on its own.
Obviously somebody died and made you chief, and I didn't hear it up here in the land of oil and money Sarah Palin is not the queen of Alaska and highly doubt that would even come close to happening, and how in God's name would Alaska as a whole become like Chicago??? What an imagination, or is it a vision,....really now....
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Sarah Palin is not the queen of Alaska and highly doubt that would even come close to happening, and how in God's name would Alaska as a whole become like Chicago??? What an imagination, or is it a vision,....really now....
