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Old 10-23-2008, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Personally, I don't bother much with newspapers, inasmuch as they are all rife with liberal bullsh.... I mean drivel.

I'd sure like to see how well you would do on E.D. Hirsch, Jr's. cultural literacy test, poster; given your perceived arrogance, though, I'm guessing you'd probably fail. Anti-intellectual, indeed!
Think again, but if you'd like to discuss the literature that problematizes Hirsch, let me know. It sounds like you could use the help broadening your intellectual horizons.

And reading a newspaper, knowing the name of a newspaper, or finding it surprising that someone can't name a paper she reads is now a sign of arrogance? You frighten me. But there is this paper called the Wall Street Journal that might fit your reading needs. Try it. You might learn something.
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Old 10-23-2008, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Palin is a doer and not a talker. She is very inarticulate, however she knows how to get things done and do them right most of the time. I can compare her to an immigrant who is hard-working but cannot articulate well. However, this immigrant has the know-how and focus to get things done. Palin's type is a focused person. She focuses on her project and forgets about everything else thus causing her naivity on other issues and inarticulation. But the advantage is that the project she focuses on gets done as evident by her many accomplishments in Alaska.



Teenage pregnancy. All I can say from what I've observed is that most of them usually end up more successful than the average American and go into management & executive positions. They mature early and gets the family out of the way early.

Military and high-school dropout. Usually, children of powerful parents mess up when they are young only to end up having the same high ambitions as their parents later in life. Sooner or later, they will figure out that they don't want to be a loser.

Sarah's biggest problem is that she is vey inarticulate. Her language is that of a mother talking to her children. Her language is very informal and she does not know how to string words together to form an intelligent-sounding sentence.

She needs to join the toastmasters and get a lot of training on public speaking.
Ha ha ha! I am crying tears of ........ frustration as I read that. You have got to be kidding me.
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Old 10-23-2008, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Also, Sarah Palin is the Governor of Alaska! She should be a role model for the state when it comes to educating her children and stressing the importance of at least finishing high school. I don't care what the "culture" in Alaska is.........and wasn't her father and some other family members/friends supposedly teachers? Guess she really doesn't value education that much.
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Old 10-23-2008, 12:53 PM
 
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I think these folks who are so supportive of Gov Palin have watched toooo many episodes of Little House on the Prairie.
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Old 10-23-2008, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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I dont' think it's negative at all. I think it's a beautiful state and it disgusts me to hear that Sarah Palin pushed for strip malls and other commercialism to ruin the pristine beauty of the area.

My point is that nobody should make fun of the Palin children for the manner in which they are being raised. You cannot compare those kids to the children of Boston or Chicago or even Tallahassee. Every place is different and norms change with geography.

The norms of Alaska are very different than those of other parts of this country.

So criticizing Bristol's pregnancy is wrong.

Criticizing her baby's father for dropping out of school is wrong.

They are doing what is normal in Alaska.
I'm not so sure I agree with that lock, stock and barrel. Now I have never lived in Alaska. I know a lot of people who have; it is not uncommon here in CO to go to Alaska to rough it, to be a bush nurse, etc. I was aware of many of the points in your previous post. However, I do not think it is the norm not to finish high school or to have a teen pregnancy. Maybe the Alaskans on the board can help us out.

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Old 10-23-2008, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Electing Dubya is enough demonstration of the downside of electing a guy only based on his "values" but not his intellect. He became a sap for more cyncial, greedy, and anti-democratic persons in his administration. Look where that got us 8 years later!
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Old 10-23-2008, 01:02 PM
 
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Electing Dubya is enough demonstration of the downside of electing a guy only based on his "values" but not his intellect. He became a sap for more cyncial, greedy, and anti-democratic persons in his administration. Look where that got us 8 years later!
amazing that almost the entire democratic congress, including barack obama, fell for dubya's bailout message (or engineered it if you prefer over a dumb president) and even more amazing that our country has been in worse financial shape in every sector in the last 2 years under the democratic congress, including gas prices, federal spending, deficit, etc. i don't know how much more senate democratic control our country can handle.
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Old 10-23-2008, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Obama's resume

Education


Undergraduate

Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA
Undergraduate, 1981-1983
Columbia University
B.A. Political Science with specialization in international relations
Thesis topic: Soviet nuclear disarmament

Graduate

Harvard Law School
J.D. magna *** laude 1988-1991
President, Harvard Law Review

Organizing and other work experience

  • 1983-1984 Writer/Researcher for Business International Corporation. Helped companies understand overseas markets in the “Financing Foreign Operations” service and wrote for the “Business International Money Report” (WEAK)
  • 1984-1985 Community Organizer for New York Public Interest Research Group (PIRG), promoting personal, community, and government reform at City College in Harlem. (WEAK)
  • 1985-1988 Director of the Developing Communities Project (DCP), a church-based community organization originally comprising eight Catholic parishes in Greater Roseland on Chicago's South Side. While director grew the DCP staff from 1 to 13 and their budget from $70,000 to $400,000. (WEAK)
  • 1992 Led Chicago's Project Vote! push. This effort resulted in a record number of voter registrations, over 600,000 in Chicago. (WEAK)
Teaching

  • 1993-2004 Visiting Law and Government Fellow, then Senior Lecturer, in Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago Law School. Taught courses on the due process and equal protection areas of constitutional law, on voting rights, and on racism and law. Helped develop a casebook on voting rights. (WEAK)
Law Practice

  • 1993-2002 Worked as an associate attorney with Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland. Represented non-profits and private individuals in urban development projects, voting rights cases, and wrongful firings. Filed major suit that forced the state of Illinois to enforce the Motor Voter Law and successfully argued a wrongful firing case before the U.S. 7th Circuit Court of Appeals. (WEAK)
>>>>>******** Illinois Senate 1996-2004 ************<<<<<<

  • Chairman, Health and Human Services Committee
  • Spearheaded a successful bipartisan effort in Illinois to pass the broadest ethics-reform legislation in 25 years, and gained bipartisan support for his successful bills reforming death penalty interrogations and ending racial profiling by police. Worked with the Republican-led effort to reform welfare. (ILLINOIS IS STILL CORRUPT, PARTICULARLY CHICAGO)
  • Also sponsored successful bills expanding tax credits and child-care subsidies for low-income working families, protecting overtime pay for workers, expanding health care for children, and providing job skills training for juveniles. (OK - NOTHING MAJOR)
New York Times chart on Obama's legislative record in the Illinois Senate: The New York Times > U.S. > Image > Obama’s Record in the Illinois Senate

United States Senate 2004-present Sworn in 1/4/2005

  • Member, Senate Foreign Relations Committee
  • Chairman, Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee on European Affairs
  • Member, Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions
  • Member, Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs
  • Member, Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs
  • Shares responsibility for the bipartisan Coburn-Obama Federal Funding Accountability and Transparency Act of 2006, requiring full online disclosure of all entities receiving federal funds, and the bipartisan Lugar-Obama Cooperative Proliferation Detection, Interdiction Assistance, and Conventional Threat Reduction Act of 2006, deepening non-proliferation work with WMD and including surface-to-air missiles, land mines, and other weapons that may be used by terrorists. Also worked with Coburn to end the abuse of no-bid contracts in the wake of disasters. (OK)
THERE IS NOTHING IN OBAMA'S RESUME THAT indicates that he is AN AGENT OF CHANGE and that he had successfully change anything major.


So the people are hiring a president LACKING in EXECUTIVE experience and a president who is going to use the entire USA for large-scale experiments of his theories.

He did not change ILLINOIS nor Chicago. And his ACORN is a complete failure and corrupt. What he did was pour money into an organization (ACORN) that was a complete failure and was part of the cause of the ECONOMIC crisis. That's not change for the better. That's change for the worse!!!

See
YouTube - EVIDENCE FOUND!!! Clinton administration's "BANK AFFIRMATIVE ACTION" They forced banks to make BAD LOANS and ACORN and Obama's tie to all of it!!!

Palin has more solid experience than Obama. She is an agent of change in Alaska.
What a surprise that you can denote every one of Obama's experiences as "weak", etc but you think Sarah's is better. Perhaps you could post her resume so we can pick it apart, too.

As I understand it, her resume goes roughly:

Sportscaster for some TV station (exremely weak)
PTA president (Organized fundraisers)
Wasilla city councilwoman (small town politics)
Wasilla mayor (had a city manager, thus did not do "executive" jobs, tried to fire librarian, etc)
Governor of Alaska (husband seemed to be "behind the scenes", doing the job.)
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Old 10-23-2008, 01:08 PM
 
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I'm not so sure I agree with that lock, stock and barrel. Now I have never lived in Alaska. I know a lot of people who have; it is not uncommon here in CO to go to Alaska to rough it, to be a bush nurse, etc. I was aware of many of the points in your previous post. However, I do not think it is the norm not to finish high school or to have an unwed pregnancy. Maybe the Alaskans on the board can help us out.

Lots of different factors and different ways of reporting but it seems they are in the lower 25 percent of high school graduation rates. I am glad to see my home state of PA still ranks in the upper tier! High School Graduation Rates in the United States | Table 1
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Old 10-23-2008, 01:28 PM
 
Location: In the sunshine on a ship with a plank
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Janeann you did similar research to what I did.

Believe me I'm the last person who wants to give Palin a pass- I think she sucks as a candidate- and she really scares me.

I'm just bothered by the criticism of her children.
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