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Old 11-14-2008, 10:16 AM
 
Location: southern california
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either way not united. but saved. we now have a shot at cleaning up this mess. just a shot.
GOP utterly unrepentant, gorging itself at the public trough, the pig party, grand old pig.
not an elephant, they used to be an elephant, i like elephants. but now a pig. i like animals but not mean angry ones.
there is much work to be done.

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Old 11-14-2008, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Central Maine
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If you want to strain a gnat to swallow a camel, then yes. You're obsessing over a detail to miss completely the larger point.
Just an observation ... when you begin a thread with a post that contains only a link (to a story, a photo, or in this case a cartoon) and includes no personal take on what you've linked to, no interpretation, no commentary of any kind, well, you invite people to focus on something other than what you wanted them to focus on. If, along with the link, you included something along the lines of "But the thrust of the cartoon is not the truth (or lack thereof) of whether or not Bush divided and united the country. The thrust is the media's protrayal." then I would have been able to respond more appropriately.

So now, finally, I understand that it's not the math (it's wrong) nor is it whether the country is/was more united or divided after Bush's election versus after Obama's election ... but whether media reports on the two elections are skewed.

Yes, there is some of that. There's not much in terms of unbiased reporting anymore. But I think the media take on this, for both elections, is more accurate than biased. Clearly the country was more divided after Bush's re-election in 2004, and media coverage reflected that; clearly the country is more united today after Obama's election (more a typical "honeymoon" period for a new President, something Bush did not enjoy after 2004), and media coverage is reflecting that.

Is some of the Obama coverage over the top? Absolutely. But I think it's somewhat understandable, given the historic nature of his election.
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Old 11-14-2008, 01:18 PM
 
Location: New York
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I don't think liberals grasp the concept of critical thinking.
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Old 11-14-2008, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Central Maine
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I don't think liberals grasp the concept of critical thinking.
And I suppose the appropriate answer to that is conservatives are the masters of generalization, eh?
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Old 11-14-2008, 06:51 PM
 
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Take into consideration that people were voting about the economic crisis and dislike of Bush and not for Obama and the mandate vanishes completely. Hillary would have gotten outscored Obama according to a recent news article. Add to that the 700 million spent on campaigning. It's going to be a very short honeymoon.
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