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Old 07-19-2011, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Gone
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Originally Posted by CharlotteNCRepublican View Post
Bush: 9 Trillion dollars in debt in 8 years (Mainly from the Wars)
Obama: 4 trillion dollars in debt in 2 and a half years (Mainly from idiotic spending on nothing)


Obama is clearly worse.
You are dealing with (presenting) half the truth, or didn't you know that, learn that from FOX?
Casper
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Old 07-19-2011, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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You mean Liberal Republicans? We kicked those guys out in the 1980's. From that list Danforth and Hatfield are the only ones I respect.


Being a Liberal Republican meant you could be for arms control, the UN, fair labor practices, urban renewal, public health, enviromental protection, fair housing, higher education, voting rights and civil rights and not have to not have to cross party lines.When the GOP went wacko after the Nixon years it was like a gift was given to the Democrats. States like Massachusettes,Conneticut, Maryland, New York, Pennsylvania, Illinois, Oregon and even California were all states that voted reliably GOP but not any more.
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Old 07-20-2011, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Being a Liberal Republican meant you could be for arms control, the UN, fair labor practices, urban renewal, public health, enviromental protection, fair housing, higher education, voting rights and civil rights and not have to not have to cross party lines.When the GOP went wacko after the Nixon years it was like a gift was given to the Democrats. States like Massachusettes,Conneticut, Maryland, New York, Pennsylvania, Illinois, Oregon and even California were all states that voted reliably GOP but not any more.
I think you might want to check your facts, since when was Ma ever really a red state? Oregon and Ca always swung both ways, depending on the situation. Pat Brown was govn of Ca for 2 terms. this was before the Nixon Pres in case you didn't know and his son followed the same time Nixon was elected Pres. They have had many Republican govn, most on the liberal side. Most the states you have mentioned have never been seen as strong Rep holds. You might want to look at the states that have gone Republican since the Nixon days as well.

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Old 07-20-2011, 12:26 PM
 
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And I suppose that the starry eyed, simple minded Independents that got sucked into voting for Obama have something to be proud of? Yeah, let's vote for the black man - it's history in the making!!

You completely disregarded his total lack of experience and any kind of individual achievement as well as his many associations with socialist, communist and terrorist types. Did you really think that a community organizer was just what the country needed? Really? The minute you pulled the lever for Obama you gave up all claim to either substance or intelligence. You got conned by all the empty words and lies.

Well, it sure has been history in the making - our first unabashedly anti-American president. The first ever to deliberately set out to destroy our economy, weaken our military, drive a wedge in the relations with our allies abroad and use class and race warfare to drive our citizens against one another.

The republicans did lose their way and they need to get back in step and reestablish their conservative values. The addition of great people like Marco Rubio, Allen West, Eric Cantor and others will hopefully renew the party and bring us to a huge victory over our greatest enemy - Obama.
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Old 07-21-2011, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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I think you might want to check your facts, since when was Ma ever really a red state? Oregon and Ca always swung both ways, depending on the situation. Pat Brown was govn of Ca for 2 terms. this was before the Nixon Pres in case you didn't know and his son followed the same time Nixon was elected Pres. They have had many Republican govn, most on the liberal side. Most the states you have mentioned have never been seen as strong Rep holds. You might want to look at the states that have gone Republican since the Nixon days as well.

Nita


You forget the Republican Party was formed by a bunch of ex-Federalist Party followers, Whigs and Abolitionists all parties associated with the Northeastern states and People from these states settled the Northwest territory so those non-slave states gravitated to this new political movement. The Democrats were the party of Jefferson and Jackson a Virginia planter and Tennesee frontiersman and also a slave holding planter. This was the party of Dixie so Democrats = Johnny Reb, Republicans = Yankees. It stayed this way until Harry Truman. The first GOP Presidential candidate was John C. Fremont. the next was Abraham Lincoln and vitually all GOP Presidents until modern times were Yankees because the GOP had such poor reprsentation in the South. Until the 1960s Southerners would not vote for the Party of Lincoln and Grant.As for Mass. it had a long tradition of voting straight GOP until the Great Depression and the election of John Kennedy in 1952. Calvin Coolidge was a GOP Governer befor being tapped as a VP candidate in 1920.
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Old 07-22-2011, 03:06 AM
 
Location: Morgantown, WV
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Um...when we lost the north we gained the south...so we didn't give any gift to the Democrats.

During the 1960's I would've been an independent because I would've hated the liberal republicans and racist democrats.

I'm a proud republican but im also a proud conservative. I'm not sexually attracted to my party like some people I know in my life.
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Old 07-23-2011, 02:12 PM
 
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Bush: 9 Trillion dollars in debt in 8 years (Mainly from the Wars)
Obama: 4 trillion dollars in debt in 2 and a half years (Mainly from idiotic spending on nothing)

Obama is clearly worse.
Wow sister, your crazy.

The military spending in the Federal Budget during the "war years" was 4.3 trillion from 2002-2008. That's not even half of the federal budget. Obama actually INCREASED military spending over Bush to pay for the wars. So if you think the wars are ok, then you should also support Obama.

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