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(Honestly I am not expecting this conversation to necessarily be 'rich' or necessarily objective seeing as how most who seem to frequent here appear to be older and white. Nevertheless, I am expecting it to be entertaining!)
I was just having this discussion with a friend and he sorta of agrees.
If you look at how the history has work here in America with Black Music it certainly says it will .
Rock and Roll Music started off with strong Black roots. Now today I cant remember if I have ever seen a black person lead or even make a Rock single that has seen the charts. The youth today even swear that it is a 'White genre' of music.
House Music is probably the biggest offender here. House music is considered to be so white when in reality it was 100% Black. Now its played and dance to without anyone questioning its roots.
Even in Battle Rapping you now have a TON of them showing up for these events swearing to the high heavens that they were made to do this.
Same for Jazz and Blues. Its been White Washed in almost all ends.
Hip-Hop has to be next. Its all happening right before everyone's eyes and no one seems to even mention to. Some people do but still.
Am I the only one who sees an issue with this ?
Just to be fair you do not see this happening with Folk or Country Music. Country seems to have a certain way of keeping people of color utterly out of the genre. I believe to date their has been a single black guy that has made a successful Country song-- Darius Rucker and that's it. But when you compare him to the hundreds of White Artist who seem to constantly find success in making Black Peoples Music it really does make you start to believe in these companies having a 'Hidden Agenda"
Now today I cant remember if I have ever seen a black person lead or even make a Rock single that has seen the charts.
Bo Diddley? Chuck Berry? Jimi Hendrix? Lenny Kravitz? Living Colour?
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Country seems to have a certain way of keeping people of color utterly out of the genre. I believe to date their has been a single black guy that has made a successful Country song-- Darius Rucker and that's it.
Perhaps you're too young to have heard of Charley Pride and his 39 No. 1 hits.
Now today I cant remember if I have ever seen a black person lead or even make a Rock single that has seen the charts.
Slash, the lead guitarist of Guns and Roses is black.
Tom Morello, the lead guitarist of Rage Against the Machine is black and widely considered to be on of the greatest rock guitarists ever.
Jimi Hendrix
Vernon Reid of Living Color
Lenny Kravitz
These are all HIGHLY influential black rock and roll figures.
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Am I the only one who sees an issue with this ?
What do you think about all this
Why in the world would you have an "issue" with people of different races loving, embracing and taking part in a particular art form? You should be more concerned with the horrible and crappy rap/hip hop that is out there right now, most of which is from the southern "rappers" that is absolutely horrible. Those guys are ruining the art form you so love. THEY are the problem.
Slash, the lead guitarist of Guns and Roses is black.
Tom Morello, the lead guitarist of Rage Against the Machine is black and widely considered to be on of the greatest rock guitarists ever.
Jimi Hendrix
Vernon Reid of Living Color
Lenny Kravitz
These are all HIGHLY influential black rock and roll figures.
Why in the world would you have an "issue" with people of different races loving, embracing and taking part in a particular art form? You should be more concerned with the horrible and crappy rap/hip hop that is out there right now, most of which is from the southern "rappers" that is absolutely horrible. Those guys are ruining the art form you so love. THEY are the problem.
Lenny Kravitz and Slash are not black, but biracial. I think Jimmy Hendricks was, too.
Let's be real, when one thinks of country, rock, etc, what race pops in your mind? It's like black people have to scream to the mountaintops that hey, WE started this, not white people!
It's not about having a problem with other races loving and embracing music that was predominately black. It is well known that a lot if white artists who are deemed gods to everyone were influenced by black people, to the point of white people literally stealing and stripping it away only for them to reign supreme.
That's just history and it keeps repeating itself.
I guess I could act like it's no big deal that this happens if my race is on the receiving end if it.
Lenny Kravitz and Slash are not black, but biracial. I think Jimmy Hendricks was, too.
That makes them BLACK. Maybe they arent "black enough" for YOU because they "ghetto" "sup homie" types, but they are definitely black. What is the deal with people and their levels of blackness arguments? "They are not black, they are biracial...." that means they are BLACK. Just like President Obama is black. Halle Berry is black. Mariah Carey is black. These are all people with white mothers and black fathers, they are considered to be black.
I agree it is definitely possible that hip hop become white washed soon... I think the issue isn't necessarily that Caucasians take part in the genre of music. However, I think the issue most people have with the subject is that some Caucasians getting a lot of exposure (and sales) on the scene, when they are not as talented as there African American counterparts. This was the issue when the other genres became white washed as well. Not saying there are not exceptions to these issues.
(Honestly I am not expecting this conversation to necessarily be 'rich' or necessarily objective seeing as how most who seem to frequent here appear to be older and white. Nevertheless, I am expecting it to be entertaining!)
I was just having this discussion with a friend and he sorta of agrees.
If you look at how the history has work here in America with Black Music it certainly says it will .
Rock and Roll Music started off with strong Black roots. Now today I cant remember if I have ever seen a black person lead or even make a Rock single that has seen the charts. The youth today even swear that it is a 'White genre' of music.
House Music is probably the biggest offender here. House music is considered to be so white when in reality it was 100% Black. Now its played and dance to without anyone questioning its roots.
Even in Battle Rapping you now have a TON of them showing up for these events swearing to the high heavens that they were made to do this.
Same for Jazz and Blues. Its been White Washed in almost all ends.
Hip-Hop has to be next. Its all happening right before everyone's eyes and no one seems to even mention to. Some people do but still.
Am I the only one who sees an issue with this ?
Just to be fair you do not see this happening with Folk or Country Music. Country seems to have a certain way of keeping people of color utterly out of the genre. I believe to date their has been a single black guy that has made a successful Country song-- Darius Rucker and that's it. But when you compare him to the hundreds of White Artist who seem to constantly find success in making Black Peoples Music it really does make you start to believe in these companies having a 'Hidden Agenda"
What do you think about all this
Cowboy Troy is black, there are quite a few black people in rock bands, such as Dave Matthews band.
Slash, the lead guitarist of Guns and Roses is black.
Tom Morello, the lead guitarist of Rage Against the Machine is black and widely considered to be on of the greatest rock guitarists ever.
Jimi Hendrix
Vernon Reid of Living Color
Lenny Kravitz
These are all HIGHLY influential black rock and roll figures.
Why in the world would you have an "issue" with people of different races loving, embracing and taking part in a particular art form? You should be more concerned with the horrible and crappy rap/hip hop that is out there right now, most of which is from the southern "rappers" that is absolutely horrible. Those guys are ruining the art form you so love. THEY are the problem.
Nothing horrible about Nappy Roots, or Outkast, too much southern rap is club music, that's the problem. Sure Paul Wall, and Lil Jon are the epitome of bad southern rap, they aren't spokesmen for it. Nothing horrible about these:
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