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Old 09-08-2014, 04:46 PM
 
Location: Stockholm
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Where do you think Standard Dutch is spoken? I noticed there too many dialects there in The Netherlands and in Flemish Belgium as well.

I guess how different is West Flemish dialect spoken in western Belgium from those Dutch dialects spoken next to the border with Germany.
From what I have heard, West Flemish should even be quite hard to understand for other Dutch speaking people.
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Old 09-09-2014, 12:01 AM
 
Location: Taipei
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^Apparently Flemish tv shows are subtitled in the Netherlands,so they might not be as similar as we thought.
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Old 09-09-2014, 08:18 AM
 
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^Apparently Flemish tv shows are subtitled in the Netherlands,so they might not be as similar as we thought.
Yes there is a slight difference between Flemish and Dutch but I understand both languages perfectly.
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Old 09-09-2014, 09:58 AM
 
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Norwegian shows and movies are also subtitled in Sweden for the most, but so is shows, documentaries and tv-series that are spoken in harsh Swedish dialects that might be slightly hard to understand for some. However interviews with Norwegian celebrities, sportsmen and such are for the most not subtitled.

Big Brother is the same in Sweden and Norway, with 50% Swedish and 50% Norwegian contestants in the house, and yes they all speak their own language to eachothers without any problem.
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Old 09-09-2014, 11:01 AM
 
Location: The Netherlands
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Where do you think Standard Dutch is spoken? I noticed there too many dialects there in The Netherlands and in Flemish Belgium as well.

I guess how different is West Flemish dialect spoken in western Belgium from those Dutch dialects spoken next to the border with Germany.
Most people with a neutral accent live in the west and center of the Netherlands (Holland, Utrecht, west Gelderland).

The difference between Flemish and Dutch is similar to the difference between British English and American English. It is the same language spoken in a different accent and with a few different words, no more than that. Standard Flemish and standard Dutch are perfectly mutually intelligible. I live close to the Belgian border and I have a lot of Flemish colleagues who work for the Dutch market without any problems.

Of course there are certain Flemish dialects that are so different from the standard language that Dutch people don't understand them, but the same is true for certain dialects within the Netherlands itself.
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Old 09-14-2014, 12:07 PM
 
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The Scandinavian languages are intelligible with eachother. English is not intelligible with any Germanic language besides Scots.
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Old 09-14-2014, 12:11 PM
 
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Yes there is a slight difference between Flemish and Dutch but I understand both languages perfectly.
Then that must have been a rumor,lol.

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The Scandinavian languages are intelligible with eachother.
I heard that Danish sounds quite different from Norwegian and Swedish,while are latter two are similar.
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Old 09-14-2014, 12:18 PM
 
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I heard that Danish sounds quite different from Norwegian and Swedish,while are latter two are similar.
Danish and Norwegian share more vocabulary in common than either has with Swedish but Norwegian and Swedish share more phonology features. So in a way, Norwegian can be considered 'in between' the two.
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Old 09-25-2014, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Eastwood, Orlando FL
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I've studied German, Italian and French. My native language is English. For me german grammer is the easiest(one you get past case). German is much easier to read for an intemediate like me than Italian or French. The syntax /grammar is much easier than it is with romance languages.
I'm in Copenhagen today and to the completely untrained ear , they sound like people don in Norway. Languages seem close.
To me German doesn't sound like English but when I see it written out germanic roots are clear.
I love reading the CC on the Danish TV because My knowledge of German and English helps me pick out words on screen.
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Old 09-25-2014, 04:53 PM
 
Location: Stockholm
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Danish and Norwegian share more vocabulary in common than either has with Swedish but Norwegian and Swedish share more phonology features. So in a way, Norwegian can be considered 'in between' the two.
Very true. In spoken form I think its Danish that sticks out the most of the 3, with a guttural pronounciation that is much more like German than Scandinavian, allthough the vocabulary is Scandinavian, largely the same as in Norwegian. As the pronounciation is so different, it makes Danish hard to understand to many Swedes and Norwegians in spoken form.

And then we have Swedish vocabulary, which is largely the same as in Danish/Norwegian but with some different spellings and a few own words and a couple of different letters. Written Danish/Norwegian is easily understood by Swedes, as the differences are very small. The grammar in the 3 languages is largely the same. I read Norwegian and Danish online tabloids every day without any problem.

Spoken Norwegian is extremely similar to spoken Swedish, and easy to understand in both ways. I doubt any unexperienced foreigner would hear any difference between the 2. When it comes to spoken Danish, I think an unexperienced foreigner could easily mistake it for German or Dutch.

In spoken form, its Danish that sticks out

In written form, its Swedish that sticks out

So yes, as you said, Norwegian truly is in between.

Faroese and Icelandic uses a pronounciation remisent to that of Norwegian/Swedish, but lets not get those involved here as those 2 are not understandable to any speakers of the 3 intelligible mainland Scandinavian langauges.


There is absolutely, without any doubt, no such thing as any English equivalent to the Scandinavian mutual intelligibility, unless you count Scots as a seperate language. There is no seperate language (other than Scots) that an English-speaking person would understand as much as say a Swede understands Norwegian without having learnt it.


Swedish:
Det var en fuktig, grå sommardag i slutet av juni.

Norwegian:
Det var en fuktig, grå sommerdag i slutten av juni.

Danish:
Det var en fugtig, grå sommerdag i slutningen af juni.

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