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The same reason why Kazakhstan is not really considered as European, despite a small part being in Europe. It's the Muslim world and Europe is like someone else mentioned here traditionally and culturally Christian. All of Turkey and Kazakhstan may not be practising Muslim, but they are still culturally and traditionally Muslim. And people in those countries looks nothing like other Europeans.
For me, Georgia and Armenia feels (based on the pictures I have seen from there, and their Christian religion and culture) more like Europe than Turkic and Muslim countries like Turkey and Kazakhstan.
Last edited by Helsingborgaren; 11-30-2013 at 08:49 AM..
Choose the primary reason for which Turkey is not considered Europe or European.
... and if I were to believe that Turkey is a European country? Or if I were to believe that Turkish self determination would decide what Turkey would be classed as? Or if I thought that none of the above was applicable?
To say your 'choices' are a little limiting in viewpoint would be flattering.
Something something Turkic something something Islamic something something brown eyes and brown hair.
Ohhh Dunno, I have news for you - that's precisely how the Georgians look, ( including, I bet, the Iberian who opened this thread and who asks all these questions about Turks))))
PS. I am trying to play nicely here, but deep in my heart I side with Iberian of course)))
Islam is the main issue.
ethnicity is a factor of course
besides that well standart game ( policies apply
I was here first you came later lets get the other guy(I am hungry/before he gets me) this place is not like my place yet I am here so it is my place yet its different and I cant kill nature so its the different looking things fault
these are all obvious ofcourse besides above mentioned there aint much that come to my mind all in all I would say relatively new established differing states and their own agendas and yes I consider america to be an older state than most of the european ones
Turkey is far more Islamic than Kazakhstan. Islam has over 1000 years old roots in Turkey- or among the Osman tribes. In KZ the Muslim culture lived only between 16-19 centuries. (the soviet system destroyed the Islam in 99,99%) Kazakhstan has also strong non-Islamic nomad tradition even today. However none of them are European countries.
Two main reasons I think and despite the political correctness of most Europeans I think it just boils down to the fact that Turkey is... 1) Not physically a part of Europe and... 2) Muslim! Turkey's insistance that it be included in the EU further solidifies people opinions. A small part of turkey may lie inside Europe but the vast majority of it lies in Asia Minor. Not Europe!
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