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Define "Slavic identity" first.
( Romanians are not Slavs, but you know that, right?)
He might be right after all, but I suspect that it has a lot to do with Catholic Church.
I didn't claim there is no Slavic identity, you did. Yes, I know, it was just an example. Romanians were just one ethnicity which didn't have full citizen rights.
Nobody but Russians or Serbians were ever interested in a pan-Slavic movement. The Czech were at first, but realised that in such a situation they would be nothing but puppets.
Yes he will.
Which leaves another good question - if Russia REALLY deserved this kind of a ruler, why it becomes than destructive for the rest of the world? Is it because the world then deserved it too?
For this reason Putin will be destroyed like Gaddafi or Hussein.
I have an impression of "other Slavs" that they lived in such proximity to Germans, ( if not to say UNDER Germans,) for so long, that they basically lost their "Slavic identity" because it was undesirable trait.
Well, it depends on how to (you or somebody else) define the "Slavic identity". Possibly that Russia loves to define it as Slavic identity=being under Russian influence. Obviously, Slavic is mostly a linguistical term, it is obvious that eg Czechs or Slovenes have long time lived under Germans and thus one can not wait or exept any intrinsic "pro- Russianity" from them. I don´t know but it seems for me that the word "pan-Slavism" (with political undertone) belongs more likely into the 19th century Nicholas I age.
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As for Belorussians - yes, it's just the variation of Russians, as much as Ukrainians of course.
Belorussians for sure yes, but as for Ukrainians I suppose there has been a difference between attitudes eg in Lvov or eg Donetsk (even if we are not talking about everything what has happened within last years).
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That's is if we are not talking about Poles. Poland is the whole different story.
I am not that well informed about them but -bigger than the others and thus quite self-confident? Looks like their nationalism has been roughly speaking evenly directed against (everything) "Western" (before Germans, now EU) and you throughout the history?
I didn't claim there is no Slavic identity, you did. Yes, I know, it was just an example. Romanians were just one ethnicity which didn't have full citizen rights.
Nobody but Russians or Serbians were ever interested in a pan-Slavic movement. The Czech were at first, but realised that in such a situation they would be nothing but puppets.
OK, fair enough.
I'll look into it, Pan-Slavism including)))
Well, it depends on how to (you or somebody else) define the "Slavic identity". Possibly that Russia loves to define it as Slavic identity=being under Russian influence.
Not in my book. That's totally independent issue from "Russian domination" question.
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Obviously, Slavic is mostly a linguistical term, it is obvious that eg Czechs or Slovenes have long time lived under Germans and thus one can not wait or exept any intrinsic "pro- Russianity" from them.
Yes, it became more linguistic term in nowadays, but that's not what it originally was, I'm sure. (It was not just "linguistic" definition.)
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I don´t know but it seems for me that the word "pan-Slavism" (with political undertone) belongs more likely into the 19th century Nicholas I age.
There is a big article on it in the Wiki, it looks pretty good.
Belorussians for sure yes, but as for Ukrainians I suppose there has been a difference between attitudes eg in Lvov or eg Donetsk (even if we are not talking about everything what has happened within last years).
See, interestingly enough the difference between Lemberg ( aka Lvov) and the rest of Ukraine goes yet again back into history, not just post-WWII times.
When I was reading the history of Russia, ( starting from Kievan Rus,) I realized with time that this particular part of former Kievan Rus ( that was staunchly Orthodox) has been chomped off by the Catholic church, and hence their fate became quiet different from that point on.
I am not that well informed about them but -bigger than the others and thus quite self-confident? Looks like their nationalism has been roughly speaking evenly directed against (everything) "Western" (before Germans, now EU) and you throughout the history?
If I look at Poland from historic perspective, and keeping in mind that once it was on the verge of claiming Russian throne during the "Times of Troubles" I picture Poland as initial rival of Russia, BUT with a lot demands and pretenses, yet incapable of fulfilling the historic mission, that only Russians could fulfill.
I see. Since Putin is not going to go Qaddafi's way ( oh lost hope! ) the ever-optimistic Ukrainians are keeping their fingers crossed for the Plan B. - THE STARVING RUSSIAN BEAR)))
Yeah right)))
Truth to be told, because of American wrongdoings towards Russia in the nineties, the pendulum swung the other way now.
You need to remember that Russia is a country of duality.
The one who is claiming that he destroys Russia as the "evil empire" and the source of all evil on this Earth, indeed is attempting to destroy something utterly valuable ALONG with the evil.
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