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The Europe forums never were about Europe, they're just a place where Americans can claim their supposed exceptionalism and superiority over other countries. The Canada forums serve the same purpose. The observation that they endlessly need to repeat their 'higher living standard', 'lower crime rates', 'better health-care', and 'lower costs of living' makes it appear they are very insecure about all that themselves. It's like if repeating the same lie a million times would make it any more true.
Europeans are always welcome to post here.
I understand that they "all speak English," so language shouldn't be a problem.
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You know that Canada is spending barely 1% of its GDP in military right ?
More over, in your above post, you know that Austria and Switzerland are not in the NATO right ?
And finally, the US may spend the most in the NATO but truth is the NATO is used ONLY when the US wants to.. Since it exists, it only served US interests but in Kosovo.. When France went to Ivory Coast, CAR or Mali planes were provided by some allies including the US and the UN/AU sent troops but NATO weren't from any help.
Because from whom the US is protecting Europe ? Russia ? Europe spend far more than Russia with much more modern stuff, and we've got our own nukes. And what Russia would do ? Start a WWIII ? Come on..
NATO is used by the US to sell its home made weapons to the other members because it requests all NATO equipment to follow US standards. So seriously, stop with this old blabla about the US subsiding European defense. During the cold war it would have been true, but not anymore.
So the 44 years of the Cold War doesn't count?
We know that France has its own nukes. So does Britain.
Other European countries do not, and have depended on NATO as a defense against the Soviet Union/Russia.
You might want to ask the Ukrainians how they feel about a "hands off" U.S. policy.
The French had their little adventures in Vietnam and Algeria. And they've made all kinds of money giving material support to countries like Iran under the Mullahs and Iraq under Saddam Hussein.
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Europe has a knack for drawing America into it's failed socialist experiments (see: Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union, etc.). I wouldn't be surprised if we end up cleaning up Europe's mess, again.
Western Europe is finished. They had a good run while it lasted, they truly did, but in the end they chose to emasculate their men with radical feminism and created a society of government-dependent permanent students. The majority cast off their very own heritage, Christianity, and replaced it with a religion of unsustainable socialism, cultural marxism, anti-racism, anti-Christianity, anti-Europeanism, anti-Americanism, atheism, state moralism and other feel-good self-defeating principles. Believers refuse to re-examine their beliefs and continue to cling to their ideologies even in the face of imminent collapse, and look to blame the Americans, the Jews, and anyone and anything but their coveted new religious ideals for their steep decline.
Your village is still on planet earth and those refugees and immigrants from the middle east and africa are still human, if you have a hard time interacting with people from different nations and religions you can just not talk to them and still stick with your family and do your "familiar traditions"
Yes, why don't we make sure that everything is multi-cultural -- even small towns?
Let's make sure that there are no non-diverse, culturally-distinct places anywhere on earth!
Instead, let's have every single place be a smaller - but otherwise identical -- version of the most diverse and integrated major city that anyone could imagine.
That should make travel interesting!
Going thousands of miles to see exactly the same thing you see at home.
This is a nice analogy for why we care. Europe is our cultural homeland, even if there has been a political separation between us. We are still a largely European based culture, just like our neighbors in Canada and Mexico are. We trace our ancestors back there, our language, culture and laws. We see serious damage being done to the cultures of Europe, and even physical threat from these new hostile immigrants. We are concerned, we hope nothing bad happens but yet we are worried. America still sees nations like the UK, France, Germany, Poland and Hungary as friends even if the feeling is not reciprocated. Our roots are over there so its going to take a lot for us to really not care as has been suggested we should do. We did not send hundreds of thousands of our young men over there 70 years ago for nothing, we did it because we could not just sit and watch Europe be destroyed by the Nazis and ruled by the worst kind of people imaginable. For the same reason we watch what is going on today with concern. History suggests that the people of the middle east will never embrace Western culture and that some kind of trouble is brewing.
Well said.
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Christians have been killing infidels and Jews until practically yesterday.
People were violent in the name of Christianity about .....500 years ago.
People are violent in the name of Islam.....today.
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" We tend to be very positive toward them, but it simply isn't replicated back to us"
Gee, I wonder why? Let's see. The US puts missiles in places like Poland, and makes us targets. The US is always trying to tell others how they should run their governments. Naw, no point in going on unending. You would never get it, because you are one of those examples why Europeans do not look kindly upon you!
It's your governments that agree to whatever the U.S. does in your countries.
Complain to them!
The U.S. doesn't force anything on you.
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....And yes they ARE superficial! Americans always ask " how are you?" do they really mean it, no. They simply expect you to say "fine, and you?"
Don't the Germans ask, "Wie geht's?" and the French ask, "Comment ca va"?
Same thing, no?
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They also expect everyone to get down and worship them, because they are AMERICAN and there would be no Europe if it weren't for AMERICA! People do get tired of hearing that. The war has been over for seventy years! ---- and no Americans did not win it single handed. I am an American/German when I am in Germany I make a point of never letting other Americans know I am half American. I simply do not want to be embarassed by their stupidity! I find them to usually be an embarrassment. They always complain, complain, complain. " the service here is so slow!" "Why do they allow dogs in restaurants?" "Why can't they speak English?" "but I was only five minutes late!" "Germans are too serious! You obviously have no clue why we are not fond of you, do you?
It's obvious that you are exaggerating.
I don't buy it.
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I don't really understand the American concern, perhaps they ignore their history.
The waves of Poles, Italians, Jews, Slavics, Arabs, Armenians, Jews, Gypsis, etc, that you received and that make up almost the majority of that conundrum you call "Anglos"...were 100 times more intolerant and ignorant than your run of the mill Syrian.
Another unsupported claim. Anglos are of Anglo-Saxon descent. The others you mention -- on what basis do you claim that they are "100 times more intolerant"?
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I don't know about you but again, as I've repeated about 10 times now; I am a British citizen, I don't care about what goes on in Europe or any other country so people need to get it into their heads that Europe is not a country and will never be a country.
France, Germany, Italy, Norway are all foreign countries, some thousands of miles away. What goes on in those countries is insignificant and does not effect me. I have no connection culturally or physically with any other country in the EU, I don't care what happens there!
The last time I was in mainland Europe was 3 years ago! Shows how much I care about it!
There's also no such thing as a European news agency, my local news agency (BBC) is a British broadcasting company and only really broadcasts here, I don't watch Germany, Italian, Greek, French news etc. As I said a moment ago, I don't give a crap what goes on in those countries! I don't know why Americans find it so hard to understand that Europe isn't a country!!!!!!!!!
Who here has said that Europe is a "country"?
The BBC does not only broadcast in Britain. You can hear it in France and other European countries.
And Europe is not "thousands of miles" away from you.
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Who here has said that Europe is a "country"?
The BBC does not only broadcast in Britain. You can hear it in France and other European countries.
And Europe is not "thousands of miles" away from you.
There are definitely parts of Europe, thousands of miles away.
Luhansk is further away than St Johns.
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