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I personally don't care how Europe handles their refugees.
However, you don't hear a lot of issues with American Muslims because the US is better at assimilating our immigrants. When people are assimilated into their new society, and are able make a decent living to support their family, they have a stake in the game and less likely to cause trouble. Europe has no clue how to do that with their immigrants.
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Originally Posted by roadrat
My only concern with Europe is for my Son, and Grandson, who will be at just about the right age to have to go over there and save there stupid @sses when there latest socialist experiment fails and leads to WW3.
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Well unfortunately the US is the only country that will step up and try to solve world problems, usually with the token backing of some EU/NATO country's, and when things go well they loudly proclaim how wonderful "we" are, But if the SHTF then they scurry off and point there fingers at the US and say its all your fault.
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Europe has a knack for drawing America into it's failed socialist experiments (see: Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union, etc.). I wouldn't be surprised if we end up cleaning up Europe's mess, again.
Western Europe is finished. They had a good run while it lasted, they truly did, but in the end they chose to emasculate their men with radical feminism and created a society of government-dependent permanent students. The majority cast off their very own heritage, Christianity, and replaced it with a religion of unsustainable socialism, cultural marxism, anti-racism, anti-Christianity, anti-Europeanism, anti-Americanism, atheism, state moralism and other feel-good self-defeating principles. Believers refuse to re-examine their beliefs and continue to cling to their ideologies even in the face of imminent collapse, and look to blame the Americans, the Jews, and anyone and anything but their coveted new religious ideals for their steep decline.
i do understand that they are false statements, both places have their goods and bad's and i don't think continuing this nationalistic europeans vs. americans crap is going to solve anything... the dirt you stand on doesn't define who you are... i don't need to say this because i know everyone knows this, people just rip on each other like this just to get their drama fix
Europe is not dying. Anyways I still can't understand why Americans are so concerned about Europe's demographics when they don't affect them at all. There are bigger problems in Europe than its demographics.
Read most of this thread, but I have to bring it up:
Maybe Americans will be quiet about the Islamic conquest of Europe when Europeans learn to shut-up about our gun laws. Honestly, an ISIS terrorist stationed in France is much more of a threat to an American then a Texan's .22 missing its mark and the stray bullet hitting Portugal or something.
And at least the demographic change is new. Americans have loved our guns for 200 years, but only now it seems that Europeans can't mind their own business and have to constantly comment on what we do in our own country that has no effect on them.
And Europe and the West do share a similar western culture. I would hate to see the birth place of Nietzsche, Beethoven and Einstein turn into another Pakistan or Iraq. Why can't the western world have one place to keep its cultural and ethnic heritage? And I say this even though I'm half-black.
The Nazi Party (The National Socialists) were socially far-right wing, but state socialists nonetheless. As long as you were part of the German nation, you were included. Look at the right-wing parties in Sweden; they are self-avowed socialists, yet only want to include native white Swedes. The Nazis were of a similar but more extreme vein. Designations such as "right" and "left" are more or less meaningless. The Nazis were unabashed state socialists and advocated extensive state intervention in every facet of German life, from the economy to the ideas that one could express.
Modern leftists don't like this and make the false conclusion that a "right-wing" party can't be socialist. Contrary to the beliefs of many, socialism does not equal tolerance or anti-racism. Many modern European socialists have adopted causes such as feminism and environmentalism, but these ideologies in themselves are not a part of socialism. The antithesis of socialism would be a completely hands off approach to government, an approach to government that is the polar opposite of that which the National Socialists adopted.
The number one difference between America and Europe is the basis of the society. America is based on individualism, Europe Collectivism. We have collectivists in this country too (racists, socialists, religious fanatics etc) and their ideas all have their origins in Europe.
Europeans seem to not be able to even consider that maybe government should just KEEP OUT EITHER WAY and leave people to LIVE THEIR LIVES as they see fit.
And it is that big-brother welfare state that is attracting the immigrants who, unlike America's never seem to want to assimilate.
And at least in America all but the most racists consider a first generation American to be an American. The son of a Korean immigrant and an Indian immigrant, born in say Germany, are called "second generation immigrants" and still treated like foreigners and NEVER considered German.
In America, those same two guys are called "great American heroes" Harold and Kumar. America sees them as individuals, but Europeans see them as part of a collective as they see everything.
Read most of this thread, but I have to bring it up:
Maybe Americans will be quiet about the Islamic conquest of Europe when Europeans learn to shut-up about our gun laws. Honestly, an ISIS terrorist stationed in France is much more of a threat to an American then a Texan's .22 missing its mark and the stray bullet hitting Portugal or something.
And at least the demographic change is new. Americans have loved our guns for 200 years, but only now it seems that Europeans can't mind their own business and have to constantly comment on what we do in our own country that has no effect on them.
And Europe and the West do share a similar western culture. I would hate to see the birth place of Nietzsche, Beethoven and Einstein turn into another Pakistan or Iraq. Why can't the western world have one place to keep its cultural and ethnic heritage? And I say this even though I'm half-black.
Speak for yourself the generalities on this thread are astounding a whole lot of Americans couldn't care less about guns and plenty think gun laws should be much much more restrictive I being one of them a much more accurate statement would have been that some Americans love guns and the the US has a very powerful gun lobby the NRA. I am not totally anti-gun however seeing how much my brother enjoys them he's a serious hunter.
I doesn't really matter what nationality the poster is - American posters aren't special - its still the EUROPE forum.
In practice it matters. People will always speak about / compare to things and places they can relate to. If you want to read discussions about Europe without every other post mentioning the USA, your best bet is to visit a forum predominantly frequented by Europeans. Similarly, if there's, say, a British forum out there with a North America subsection, you'll spot plenty of posts mentioning the UK.
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