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Old 10-29-2015, 07:12 AM
 
Location: Kingdom of pain, Southern Europe
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This is the typical product of the public education system, "el cani", "killos", "jonathans" and "jennifer". The three girls are poligoneras.
Bull****, it's not the result of the public education system. It's the result of living on poor areas with parents that don't know how/don't have the resources to educate their kids. The school can't do much about it. There are also multiple programs to help marginal groups integrate into society.
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Old 10-29-2015, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Bologna, Italy
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There are vast differences between italian and french school systems already, i have no idea about denmark or romania.

Generalization thread #456397
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Old 10-29-2015, 09:54 AM
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my daughter, and each kid in her class have been assigned a day to stay after school and clean the room, sweep, mop etc.

they do it maybe twice a month. i like the concept. this is in the netherlands
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Old 10-29-2015, 11:29 AM
 
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Bull****, it's not the result of the public education system. It's the result of living on poor areas with parents that don't know how/don't have the resources to educate their kids. The school can't do much about it. There are also multiple programs to help marginal groups integrate into society.


They are not marginal groups at all.
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Old 10-29-2015, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Kingdom of pain, Southern Europe
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They are not marginal groups at all.
Call them whatever you want to call them. They drop out of school, so they have a poor education and will end up working a ****ty job, they are disruptive and violent, and AT BEST they like to try cocaine on ocassion. Top it all of with being part of a family that don't have that much money.
They are eligible to study or work on programs developed to help marginal groups. And you WILL find them there.

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Aquí tienes uno de dichos programas, majuelo.
http://www.trama.org/centro-de-d%C3%...%C3%B3n-social

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Old 10-29-2015, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Somewhere flat in Mississippi
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What age group are you referring to as children?
All of them, but teenagers in particular. They can cause the most problems.
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Old 10-30-2015, 03:32 AM
 
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my daughter, and each kid in her class have been assigned a day to stay after school and clean the room, sweep, mop etc.

they do it maybe twice a month. i like the concept. this is in the netherlands
I agree with you!

And here in Japan, we do that everyday in school.

Check this video: https://youtu.be/hL5mKE4e4uU
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Old 10-30-2015, 04:24 AM
 
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In France's public schools, pupils are encouraged to be "spontaneous". So the bullies and other shady characters have a field day. If a pupil is deemed too "serious" and "shy", he will have big problems, not only with the bullies , but with the teachers who will not defend him. It's a case of "inversed discipline" : if kids are "spontaneous" (ie yobs) they are considered disciplined . The system however loathes individuals who don't follow its nihilistic rules.
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Old 10-30-2015, 04:55 AM
 
Location: Pérouges
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In France's public schools, pupils are encouraged to be "spontaneous". So the bullies and other shady characters have a field day. If a pupil is deemed too "serious" and "shy", he will have big problems, not only with the bullies , but with the teachers who will not defend him. It's a case of "inversed discipline" : if kids are "spontaneous" (ie yobs) they are considered disciplined . The system however loathes individuals who don't follow its nihilistic rules.
What a load of complete and utter crap. You've let loose with some real quality effluent on this occasion.....

I have a child at a public school here in France, also nieces, nephews, friends with children and friends of children. Not just in the glorious Nirvana of Lyon where my daughter goes to school either before you come up with some diatribe about "your areas schools must be an exception" but spread it towns and cities all over this country. While there are problem children and problem schools like most countries in the world they do not make up the majority but the minority. Most schools are ok-good, some are good-excellent, some sadly are poor-ok and some are just bad. Unsurprisingly it's the same with the pupils and the teachers.

The size of the brush that you paint your outlook on life with must be absolutely bloody huge... Maybe get a smaller one, use some thinner paint and see what's around the sides.
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Old 10-30-2015, 05:54 AM
 
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Call them whatever you want to call them. They drop out of school, so they have a poor education and will end up working a ****ty job, they are disruptive and violent, and AT BEST they like to try cocaine on ocassion. Top it all of with being part of a family that don't have that much money.
They are eligible to study or work on programs developed to help marginal groups. And you WILL find them there.


Canis and Killos are not "menores y adolescentes con problemas de integración social". Many drop school, but attend FP, professional training. They are not disruptive and violent, not particularly. Canis and Killos are a great percentage of those that attend public education. As to cocaine, etc, that's quite widespread among all classes, but Canis favour pills.
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