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Old 10-28-2015, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Somewhere flat in Mississippi
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Is there a problem with students misbehaving in European schools? And if so, what is done with these students? I ask that in response to this fiasco in the U.S.

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Old 10-28-2015, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Estonia
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Zero discipline in general. Teachers aren't allowed to do a thing without being threatened to get fired or facing legal repercussions. Children are treated like holy cows in India, infallible beings.
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Old 10-28-2015, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Somewhere flat in Mississippi
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Zero discipline in general. Teachers aren't allowed to do a thing without being threatened to get fired or facing legal repercussions. Children are treated like holy cows in India, infallible beings.
I thought children in European cultures were more respectful of authority than those in U.S. culture.
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Old 10-28-2015, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Kingdom of pain, Southern Europe
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Well, there are highschools where no teacher would want to work at, and others where kids just behave like kids.

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Police officers make mistakes too. They're human and they need to be held accountable, and that's what we've done with Deputy Ben Fields.
It would seem like US police officers have a marked tendency to make mistakes.
(I would speak about our own but, I actually have no complaint about them. None at all.)
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Old 10-29-2015, 04:44 AM
 
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A disaster, teachers in public schools are mostly under medication. They are attacked not only by children, but by their parents. American students, at least when I was there, are far more disciplined and don't cheat, universities are also a world apart, far more serious and organized. Here public universities are a place in which teachers have eternal sinecures and can't be expelled, they are all related and most don't care.

Private universities and education here, that are almost as expensive, are very good, some among the best.

Education went downhill, discipline went downhill during the last 40 years.

It depends a lot on autonomous communities too.

The case that appeared in all the media is very common here, but I have never seen police on schools. I have been in American HS and Junior Colleges with a large percentage of AA students, and they were more disciplined that children here, but in Junior Colleges their drop rates were tremendously high. I was appalled by American schools because students were disciplined and DID NOT CHEAT, and teachers treated students as people, not the case here at that time.

Teachers have problems in some specific cases, in which parents from certain ethnic minority, Spanish Gypsies, do threaten the life of teachers, and there's violence....also there are schools with a lot of immigration that are not violent, but drag the level down...so there's a flight to private schools, or semi-private schools (concertadas).

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Old 10-29-2015, 05:54 AM
 
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It depends. In the past rules were more straight for children and kids used to beahve much better than now. Nowadays teachers have less autority and parents more power about education inside school.

But we don't have so much problems here at least in early ages, there are still rules and forbidden actions in schools. But I worked in a Kindergarten in Germany last year and that was the kingle, every single classroom and kid have their own rules and preferences and kids are quite spoiled there.





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Teachers have problems in some specific cases, in which parents from certain ethnic minority, Spanish Gypsies, do threaten the life of teachers, and there's violence....also there are schools with a lot of immigration that are not violent, but drag the level down...so there's a flight to private schools, or semi-private schools (concertadas).
True, I have some friends who are teachers at public schools and they are completely stressed, even having a bigger salary than semi public ones, I would prefer to work in the last ones, and also bring my future children to concertadas.
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Old 10-29-2015, 06:02 AM
 
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This is the typical product of the public education system, "el cani", "killos", "jonathans" and "jennifer". The three girls are poligoneras.


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Old 10-29-2015, 06:11 AM
 
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I thought children in European cultures were more respectful of authority than those in U.S. culture.
What age group are you referring to as children?
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Old 10-29-2015, 06:18 AM
 
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Canis adopted Obama, interesting.
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Old 10-29-2015, 06:59 AM
 
Location: Monnem Germany/ from San Diego
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Kind of depends here, in the upper "Gymnasiums" the kids don´t make too much trouble, they have enough to do just to keep up, in the mid level "Realschulen" it is still mostly ok but the lower level "Hochschulen" I think many are a bit out of control. Also depends a lot on the community where the schools are.
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