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Old 07-17-2009, 04:01 PM
 
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The minimum gross annual wage/year in France is $17,563 USD

€8.82 per hour; €1,337.70 per month for 151.67 hours worked (or 7 hours every weekday of the month)

List of minimum wages by country - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The minimum gross annual wage in the U.S. is $13,624 USD

The federal minimum wage is $6.55 USD per hour; states may also set a minimum, in which case the higher of the two is controlling.

Maybe some of you think that Paris is expensive but Parisians do not need a car in order commute. Therefore, they save a big portion of their salary (car payments, gas, tolls, maintenance, car insurance, etc).

Paris is as expensive as any other amazing city in this world (London, Tokio, New York, for example)... Paris is the most visited city in the world. So you people shouldn`t complain that you can`t buy a house there...
Using the minimum wage scale as a basis for income is intellectual dishonesty. Use the current gross income per capita figures.

I think living on minimum wage in any major city is nearly impossible.
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Old 07-17-2009, 04:36 PM
 
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That's what happens when you live in a city you cannot really afford, be it NY, London or Paris. Living in Paris is great (and different) for those who have the funds.
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Old 07-17-2009, 04:55 PM
 
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Paris isn't that expensive whether you're a student, a tourist or an employé. Cheap accommodation and inexpensive eats are plentiful if you know your way around. Most offices have their own subsidized staff cafeteria like the one at French Ministry with a view of Seine.
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Old 07-17-2009, 06:35 PM
 
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One thing that is good about socialist countries is that the basic needs for life are cheap. When I was in Paris, bread was like .80 Euro. In CA, bread here is like $3.00.
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Old 07-17-2009, 09:55 PM
 
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One thing that is good about socialist countries is that the basic needs for life are cheap. When I was in Paris, bread was like .80 Euro. In CA, bread here is like $3.00.
You are right. However, from what I read, (including from a guy who wants to return with his family to US), is that some people aspire to more then bread. NYC for example, can offer a large variety of attractions, but when all you can afford is a lousy loft and work your butt off all day long, there is not much left for other activities. Then you hear people asking - what's there in NYC? Not much...
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Old 07-17-2009, 10:47 PM
 
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Dinner in Europe is supposed to be eaten at noon which I find to be more correct since you have your heaviest meal mid-day where you have time to work it off. The US is far behind France and Italy when it comes to gastronomy.
Duh of course I knew that I often do make my biggest meal of the day early afternoon. So is that chocolate pastry better than a doughnut? (jk)

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At one stage, I took advantage of a European country public university system, earned a masters degree over four years, and practically got paid to do it.
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Great place to visit but to live and work it is horrible.

That's what I've been saying all along , unfortunately many criticize me on USC, saying that I'm "overreacting", that "I have issues","I don't deserve to live there" (well, sorry, but I was born in Paris, so...), "why do I live here"- as if everyone had the choice of where to live and make a career-!
I have actually enjoyed reading your honest critique of a place you were born

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Using the minimum wage scale as a basis for income is intellectual dishonesty. Use the current gross income per capita figures.

I think living on minimum wage in any major city is nearly impossible.
Agreed!

Thx for chiming in everyone!
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Old 07-17-2009, 11:14 PM
 
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So how do you parisians feel about the enormous amount of tourists that descend on your city? Do you avoid the touristy stuff like many do in say San Francisco?

What is a typical dinner on a lean day and what about a more extravagant meal out on the town?

Do you guys really get 6 weeks of holiday a year?

What is an average monthly rent or mortgage?

How is the weather? Never too cold and never too hot? Gray more than sunny?
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Old 07-17-2009, 11:29 PM
 
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I am not a Parisian but I will try and answer some of the questions you posed that relate to me.

Typical lean day would be some sort of fish. I think the most extravagant meal I had in Paris was on the Champs Elysee and it was duck. Really good.

Yes, they get six weeks of holiday. Think of a teacher's job here in the US in terms of off time. A lot of time off, just not much money to utilise during that time off.

Average rent in Paris is around 600 Euro/month for a 15m/150 square foot apartment.

Parisian weather is not too much different than London. Slightly better than London though, a little less rain. Gray a little more than sunny for the brief time I was there.
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Old 07-18-2009, 08:17 AM
 
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...oh and about the noise I forgot police and fire department sirens, they are louder than US sirens : "2 times sirens", ear deafening!
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Old 07-18-2009, 09:08 AM
 
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I love France but, for me, Paris is just another big European city (and, yes, I have been there many times for work and pleasure, speak French and can even do some Parisien slang).
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