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Old 07-20-2009, 04:53 AM
 
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Old 07-20-2009, 06:45 AM
 
Location: in the southwest
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So a REAL typical day of Parisian.

Weak up: 6:30 a.m
Shower and morning lunch and watching TV: 6:30 to 7:45 pm
Take the bus or the car: 7:45 a.m
Arriving in the RER station 8:00 am
Arriving in Central Paris and changing for the metro 8:40 am
Arriving at work 9:00 am

Lunch : 12:30 pm
A sandwich or restaurant, sushi, salade, meat with french fries or etc
End of the lunch pause : 13:30 pm

End of the work : 6:30 pm
The oposite in the otherway.

Arriving at home: 8:00 pm
Watching the news: 8
Small diner with familly: between 8:30 pm and 9 pm
Watching TV: 9 pm to 11 pm
Going to the bed: 11 pm

As we call it metro boulo dodo
This sounds a lot like what my kid describes (he lives in Rouen, but wants to get back to Paris.) I think he has a longer lunch break, and I also think he works longer on Thursdays and shorter on Fridays.
Of course he's single and likes to go out to clubs, cafés etc.
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Old 07-20-2009, 08:02 AM
 
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You want to know how much I make? well, after 29 years as a middle level clerck in the Civil Service, I earn the equivalent of 35.000 $; not bad, given the fact I can't be fired. The bad side of it is that it is very difficult to break the glass ceiling to the higher ranks. Once low/middle level servant, for ever middle/low level servant.
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Old 07-20-2009, 08:15 AM
 
Location: in the southwest
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You want to know how much I make? well, after 29 years as a middle level clerck in the Civil Service, I earn the equivalent of 35.000 $; not bad, given the fact I can't be fired. The bad side of it is that it is very difficult to break the glass ceiling to the higher ranks. Once low/middle level servant, for ever middle/low level servant.
Pigeon, what you describe is what my son has shared with me about his co-workers. But the interesting thing is that he was under the impression that his co-workers are not all that ambitious, they do not aspire to get ahead, they are happy where they are.
I can see how this could be frustrating if you do *want* to move up the ranks.
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Old 07-20-2009, 08:28 AM
 
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I can see how this could be frustrating if you do *want* to move up the ranks.

There are professional exams though, like -I surmise- in the US Civil Service, to get you promoted, the problem is that there is a lot of red tape, and often the guys that move up the ranks are secretly picked beforehand by the hierarchy (e.g. through the marks/evaluation system...)
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Old 07-20-2009, 12:10 PM
 
Location: in the southwest
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I can see how this could be frustrating if you do *want* to move up the ranks.

There are professional exams though, like -I surmise- in the US Civil Service, to get you promoted, the problem is that there is a lot of red tape, and often the guys that move up the ranks are secretly picked beforehand by the hierarchy (e.g. through the marks/evaluation system...)
That, I am sorry to say, happens here, as well.
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Old 07-20-2009, 02:21 PM
 
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You want to know how much I make? well, after 29 years as a middle level clerck in the Civil Service, I earn the equivalent of 35.000 $; not bad, given the fact I can't be fired. The bad side of it is that it is very difficult to break the glass ceiling to the higher ranks. Once low/middle level servant, for ever middle/low level servant.
and looong vacation too.
*edit* you've covered the part on exams within the civil service for the next jump of promotion. Yes it happens everywhere.
graduates from the Grandes Ecoles fare better in all sectors, but even then a good family background is useful.
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Old 08-07-2009, 01:24 PM
 
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In response to your question, I agree. I too like the Pain au Chocolat pastry. I also like the Croque Monsieur in the morning. Dinner in Europe is supposed to be eaten at noon which I find to be more correct since you have your heaviest meal mid-day where you have time to work it off. The US is far behind France and Italy when it comes to gastronomy.

I also really like Paris' metro. It isn't dangerous and you don't need a car.

I would have to agree with Georgio that you don't go to France and the rest of Europe to make money. You go there to travel or retire. That is pretty much what it is good for. So the cons would be low pay, high taxation, and unreasonably expensive.
Perhaps this is why 60% Americans have a weight problem
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Old 08-07-2009, 01:28 PM
 
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...oh and about the noise I forgot police and fire department sirens, they are louder than US sirens : "2 times sirens", ear deafening!
and they sound different. Ours are faster...the european ones are more drawn out and slow...esp. the first sound in the pair. American sirens are more monotone and equal.

Lol, is anyone understanding what I'm saying?
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Old 08-07-2009, 01:31 PM
 
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So a REAL typical day of Parisian.

Weak up: 6:30 a.m
Shower and morning lunch and watching TV: 6:30 to 7:45 pm
Take the bus or the car: 7:45 a.m
Arriving in the RER station 8:00 am
Arriving in Central Paris and changing for the metro 8:40 am
Arriving at work 9:00 am

Lunch : 12:30 pm
A sandwich or restaurant, sushi, salade, meat with french fries or etc
End of the lunch pause : 13:30 pm

End of the work : 6:30 pm
The oposite in the otherway.

Arriving at home: 8:00 pm
Watching the news: 8
Small diner with familly: between 8:30 pm and 9 pm
Watching TV: 9 pm to 11 pm
Going to the bed: 11 pm

As we call it metro boulo dodo
My day isn't much different than this, though...(I'm American)
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