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I think what GSPNative is trying to say is that it is normal for straight men in modern American society to be turned off/repulsed by such an overt display of male nudity.
I think what aries63 is trying to say is that going back through human history, this wasn't always the case. There have been (and still are) societies in which straight men were largely unbothered by/neutral toward male nudity. We need to take the wider view and acknowledge that their feelings and experiences are just as valid as ours. Perhaps social conditioning plays a larger role than we care to admit, and this isn't some unchangeable biological imperative.
I think what GSPNative is trying to say is that it is normal for straight men in modern American society to be turned off/repulsed by such an overt display of male nudity.
I think what aries63 is trying to say is that going back through human history, this wasn't always the case. There have been (and still are) societies in which straight men were largely unbothered by/neutral toward male nudity. We need to take the wider view and acknowledge that their feelings and experiences are just as valid as ours. Perhaps social conditioning plays a larger role than we care to admit, and this isn't some unchangeable biological imperative.
Yeah, young prissy American men who have been carefully kept wrapped in cotton wool from birth.
Ask some Marines who just got back from Afghanistan how they feel about this.
Yeah, young prissy American men who have been carefully kept wrapped in cotton wool from birth.
Ask some Marines who just got back from Afghanistan how they feel about this.
I'll guarantee Marines, NFL players and whatever other masculine vocation you can think of probably don't enjoy Grandpa Bill walking up to them stark naked and asking about the football game last night either.
Yeah, young prissy American men who have been carefully kept wrapped in cotton wool from birth.
Ask some Marines who just got back from Afghanistan how they feel about this.
Exactly-- it reflects the increasingly sheltered lives that young men are leading today compared to before. They continue living with mom and dad much longer than they used to. They weren't allowed to go outside and play or ride their bikes around the neighborhood as kids. And increasingly they spend most of their lives online, in the isolation of virtual reality, and have become uncomfortable in their own skin and seeing the skin of others. It's not their fault they turned out so repressed and uncomfortable in the real world and have to shield their eyes in the locker room.
Exactly-- it reflects the increasingly sheltered lives that young men are leading today compared to before. They continue living with mom and dad much longer than they used to. They weren't allowed to go outside and play or ride their bikes around the neighborhood as kids. And increasingly they spend most of their lives online, in the isolation of virtual reality, and have become uncomfortable in their own skin and seeing the skin of others. It's not their fault they turned out so repressed and uncomfortable in the real world and have to shield their eyes in the locker room.
You are the king of ridiculous generalizations. Where do you pull this nonsense out of.........let me guess, does it rhyme with "Box" and "booze?"
It sounds like some posters on this thread are trying a little too hard to "prove" their heterosexuality by loudly proclaiming their disgust at uninhibited nudity in the locker room, as if NOT being feeling uncomfortable/repulsed in the presence of same-sex nudity might cause suspicions of gayness to be cast in their direction.
The thing about it is the effort is cancelled out by the obvious insecurity.
Why all the worrying anyway? It's 2023.
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It sounds like some posters on this thread are trying a little too hard to "prove" their heterosexuality by loudly proclaiming their disgust at uninhibited nudity in the locker room, as if NOT being feeling uncomfortable/repulsed in the presence of same-sex nudity might cause suspicions of gayness to be cast in their direction.
The thing about it is the effort is cancelled out by the obvious insecurity.
Why all the worrying anyway? It's 2023.
Doesn't that go both ways? Why would YOU care about how OTHER PEOPLE feel about nudity? I see a number of people who think that means you're some 20something who lives a very sheltered life. I'm pretty sure that isn't any of us on the other side of things.
On that note, I'm out of this stupid conversation. Can't have sane debates here without people taking things to the extreme. Even my mocking a few posts back some people must've thought that was real as I got several reps on it. SMH.
I'll guarantee Marines, NFL players and whatever other masculine vocation you can think of probably don't enjoy Grandpa Bill walking up to them stark naked and asking about the football game last night either.
Call me crazy.
What if "Grandpa Bill" needs help getting dressed? I guess he's SOL with you around. You'd go running and screaming in the other direction and outsource his saggy a$$.
You are the king of ridiculous generalizations. Where do you pull this nonsense out of.........let me guess, does it rhyme with "Box" and "booze?"
Wrong again. I come at it from a liberal background. The trend is toward more conservative dress and behaviors than what I grew up with. Look at how bathing suits and shorts evolved. In the 70's men wore short shorts and bikini briefs (look at basketball players and Olympic swimmers from that decade), and they've been getting longer ever since, going to knee length, and oversized. In my view, to be liberal is to be uninhibited and comfortable with the body, and to be conservative is to be prudish and covered up. People who covered up excessively we called "squares." You could judge who was more conservative or liberal by how much flesh was exposed.
Have you ever seen documentaries about Woodstock? Do you think all those young people taking off their clothes were conservatives? Something is wrong with you.
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