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Old 04-14-2023, 06:48 AM
 
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That is the worst advice I've ever seen.

Have you ever even HEARD of diabetes?
Have you not heard of an "individualized program?" It is a "special" diet. For Houston Man.

But anyhow, you guys continue on. I am outahere. Houston man wins.
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Old 04-14-2023, 07:16 AM
 
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You saw my training schedule right? Will I lose rep count?

A small inconsequential amount if done right.

Maybe it hasn't been made clear here, but if you are in a catabolic state (calorie restriction), you will always be burning some % of muscle, but can be very small. High protein helps keep it small.

Conversely, when in anabolic state (caloric surplus), you will *have to* gain some fat. You can make the amount gained relatively less by having the surplus after weighttraining - preferentially allowing more muscle to grow.

This is one reason people should keep weightlifting routines efficient to a few days a week.

On those days, have a small caloric surplus (say 500 cal). Net gain will be say 80% muscle 20% fat.

On the other days, have a caloric deficit (say 500 cal) with high protein diet. Net loss will be 90% fat 10% muscle.

Repeating this pattern will allow muscle level to be maintained (also possible to grow) while reducing fat.
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Old 04-14-2023, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Sugar Land, Texas
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That's why we're all different. I am secure enough as I am (and was) not to be concerned with whether or not my wife is taller than me. She has a million characteristics that made her worthwhile to me, and I wouldn't use an app now if I could. You can only glean looks from an app. Once you can get past just being concerned with looks and look for a total package you'll understand. Can't do that from an app.



Because you may not be built the same as another person. This is easy to understand for most people. Be the best version of you.... not chasing after the best version of someone else.
It’s mostly about looks on the app at first. I am chasing the best version of myself.
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Old 04-14-2023, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Sugar Land, Texas
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Yes, way back there, and I told you that your self-reported "few minutes" of "cardio" - I can't remember the specifics - was woefully inadequate for the job of aerobic exercise. A 47 year old man needs to be focusing on aerobic exercise; if time is limited, focus on that to the exclusion of strength exercise; because after 40 you're into heart attack territory and the most important thing you can do is to keep the tubes clear. Six pack abs won't help you if you throw a plaque and have a massive MI.
Cardio is after lifting weights.

I am focused on building muscle mass.
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Old 04-14-2023, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Sugar Land, Texas
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That is the worst advice I've ever seen.

Have you ever even HEARD of diabetes?
Yeah LOL.
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Old 04-14-2023, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Sugar Land, Texas
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That is the worst advice I've ever seen.

Have you ever even HEARD of diabetes?
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Have you not heard of an "individualized program?" It is a "special" diet. For Houston Man.

But anyhow, you guys continue on. I am outahere. Houston man wins.
I avoid processed sugar. I get them from fruits and vegetables.
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Old 04-14-2023, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Sugar Land, Texas
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A small inconsequential amount if done right.

Maybe it hasn't been made clear here, but if you are in a catabolic state (calorie restriction), you will always be burning some % of muscle, but can be very small. High protein helps keep it small.

Conversely, when in anabolic state (caloric surplus), you will *have to* gain some fat. You can make the amount gained relatively less by having the surplus after weighttraining - preferentially allowing more muscle to grow.

This is one reason people should keep weightlifting routines efficient to a few days a week.

On those days, have a small caloric surplus (say 500 cal). Net gain will be say 80% muscle 20% fat.

On the other days, have a caloric deficit (say 500 cal) with high protein diet. Net loss will be 90% fat 10% muscle.

Repeating this pattern will allow muscle level to be maintained (also possible to grow) while reducing fat.
Ok so get highest protein at lower calories possible. Protein powder does that job.
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Old 04-15-2023, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Formerly Pleasanton Ca, now in Marietta Ga
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No. Not while in a caloric deficit. No protein. Protein does not work in a deficit.

What you should do to keep it easy is 2 cups of sugar a day. One cup of sugar is 700 calories. Take that times 2 and you have your 1400 daily caloric intake. You can put it in some tea.
Actually it does. I went from 183 to 152 over a 8 month span averaging about 1400 calories and 160 to 170 grams of protein. My strength actually went up over that time meaning a slight gain in muscle mass.
But I’m going to make it easy on myself and do the two cups of sugar next time!
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Old 04-15-2023, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Formerly Pleasanton Ca, now in Marietta Ga
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Ok so get highest protein at lower calories possible. Protein powder does that job.
Don’t rely on protein powder. Eat right and supplement with protein powder
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Old 04-15-2023, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Sugar Land, Texas
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Actually it does. I went from 183 to 152 over a 8 month span averaging about 1400 calories and 160 to 170 grams of protein. My strength actually went up over that time meaning a slight gain in muscle mass.
But I’m going to make it easy on myself and do the two cups of sugar next time!
Maybe the user was being sarcastic about 2 cups of sugar?
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