[Travelassie]

Originally Posted by Jo48

What mountain minerals in water does Florida have? Lot of chlorine and fluoride in the water, maybe. Natural minerals? None.

I would say there are natural minerals in the water that comes from the Floridan aquifer located under most of the state, and from which many folks in the state get their water. Those minerals would come from a leaching process similar to that which occurs in ground water anywhere, in this case from the coral and rock surrounding the aquifer. I don't have a water report handy, but such a report would list those minerals.

Surely you have a report handy to make such a declarative statement about Florida's water?

And we have artesian well water here, comes from the aquifer. No chlorine or flouride here.

Must have hit a nerve there with my comments about the bagel water in NY coming from the East River, LOL. Wasn't aware they would tug on your "I Heart NY" badge.

[markjames68]

Originally Posted by Travelassie

I would say there are natural minerals in the water that comes from the Floridan aquifer located under most of the state, and from which many folks in the state get their water. Those minerals would come from a leaching process similar to that which occurs in ground water anywhere, in this case from the coral and rock surrounding the aquifer. I don't have a water report handy, but such a report would list those minerals.

Surely you have a report handy to make such a declarative statement about Florida's water?

And we have artesian well water here, comes from the aquifer. No chlorine or flouride here.

Must have hit a nerve there with my comments about the bagel water in NY coming from the East River, LOL. Wasn't aware they would tug on your "I Heart NY" badge.

Well, the "East River" comment was unwarranted.

However, comments like "best tasting water in NYC" are also somewhat inaccurate. If you had a tap right at the point where the water enters NYC I could believe it, but by the time it works its way down Manhattan and into a building which may have really old pipes it's possible that it will pick up taste/smell attributes that weren't there when the water came from upstate.

My tap water tastes excellent, and is extremely pure. But that's because I run it through a whole-house filtration system and also a second one at the tap in the kitchen. The advantage of NYC's water is that it doesn't have to be purified (one of the few out there). Good thing, too, because it would really be expensive to do and with all of the other high utility costs (like ConEd) it's one less thing to worry about.

[PeteU]

Originally Posted by Arcenal352

Uh, what???

And no, a bagel is not just "a bagel." Try a Montreal-style bagel, for example. The process to make it is completely different than a traditional, everyday bagel, and as such, tastes and feels different.

Your comment got me curious so I had to Google Montreal style bagels.

Are there any places in the South Florida area that sell Montreal-style bagels because I'd love to try them? I think there was a place in Boca that used to sell them, but they closed down like 20 years ago.

The problem is, with the sheer number of NY ex-pats down here, they seem to pretty much freeze out any other alternatives to their version of their food staples. Same reason it's very hard to find a Chicago deep dish around here.

[New Horizons]

Come to think of it, many years ago I was in NYC and went to this little Greek restaurant. The waitress brought me a water. She came back and said, "it's good water isn't it?". I thought she was being sarcastic, I figured those must be some really old pipes underground! I took a gulp of water, and surprisingly it tasted pretty dang clean.

Originally Posted by Spring Hillian

Certainly EVERYTHING is not better in NY. The water is very good though.

[Travelassie]

Originally Posted by markjames68

Well, the "East River" comment was unwarranted.

However, comments like "best tasting water in NYC" are also somewhat inaccurate. If you had a tap right at the point where the water enters NYC I could believe it, but by the time it works its way down Manhattan and into a building which may have really old pipes it's possible that it will pick up taste/smell attributes that weren't there when the water came from upstate.

My tap water tastes excellent, and is extremely pure. But that's because I run it through a whole-house filtration system and also a second one at the tap in the kitchen. The advantage of NYC's water is that it doesn't have to be purified (one of the few out there). Good thing, too, because it would really be expensive to do and with all of the other high utility costs (like ConEd) it's one less thing to worry about.

Looks like the comment about the East River poked your "I ♥ NY" button too. Considering how critical so many of your fellow NYers are about anything and anyone not hailing from your neck of the woods, I always find their thin skins and offense taken about even the most innocuous comment, even one made obviously in jest, about NY puzzling.

My husband, who is originally from NY, tells me the water used in NYC is piped in from upstate NY, massive pipelines from the mountains, etc. This would explain the purity of the water, at the source, but as you say the waters run through miles of municipal pipe would add who knows what to that water. Guess they need to get it from somewhere, certainly not places like the East River. But who is responsible for polluting that river??

[markjames68]

Originally Posted by Travelassie

Looks like the comment about the East River poked your "I ♥ NY" button too. Considering how critical so many of your fellow NYers are about anything and anyone not hailing from your neck of the woods, I always find their thin skins and offense taken about even the most innocuous comment, even one made obviously in jest, about NY puzzling.

My husband, who is originally from NY, tells me the water used in NYC is piped in from upstate NY, massive pipelines from the mountains, etc. This would explain the purity of the water, at the source, but as you say the waters run through miles of municipal pipe would add who knows what to that water. Guess they need to get it from somewhere, certainly not places like the East River. But who is responsible for polluting that river??

No there is no "poked your" issue here. Just that if you knew how bad the East River truly was you'd never even suggest it as a source of water. Plus, it's salt water (not even fresh). It was a fair comment back.

As a tidal strait, the East River (which ironically isn't a river) gets its crap from Long Island sound, the Bronx River and so on. The reason why NYC has to get its water from so far upstate is likely due to hundreds of years of pollution. I believe until a few years ago it was labeled as "dangerous" for pretty much any activity which is why you don't see anyone out there.

[Joey Falcon]

NY water smells bad.

[chaseo1]

Originally Posted by Joey Falcon

NY water smells bad.

NYers smell bad too

[markjames68]

Originally Posted by chaseo1

NYers smell bad too

A blanket statement that's obviously not provable to any extent. However, I will say that there is nothing like the hot stink of a NYC subway station in the middle of August. Or the piles of garbage in lower Manhattan before it's picked up on garbage day.

[justNancy]

We each have different taste buds and I'm one of those people who rarely enjoys a glass of tap water, no matter where I am.

For over 20 years in Florida I lived in Bonita Springs, Naples, Vero Beach, Port Charlotte, Englewood .. all different counties, and the water was always terrible out of the tap, at least IMO. That doesn't mean it was unsafe, however.

Still, if I had children, I would never use unfiltered tap water. I'm not even sure I'd give it to my pets. I'm not just talking about Florida, by the way. I grew up in Boston with delicious MDC water, but there was an incident in the suburbs where a company (W.R. Grace) dumped toxic chemicals into the water supply and several children got cancer. In Florida, an area called The Acreage had an unusual number of children in the same school diagnosed with brain tumors during the same period. So why take chances?

By the way, I thought this thread was about bagels, not New York or its water. BTW, I like NYC a lot. It's just much too expensive and way too crowded for me, but it's a great city.