[Suki Suki Sue]

Originally Posted by Corrie22

CHICOM-19 guidelines...

Here are the official Coronavirus guidelines:

1. Basically, you can't leave the house for any reason, but if you have to, then you can.

2. Masks are useless, but maybe you have to wear one, it can save you, it is useless, but maybe it is mandatory as well.

3. Stores are closed, except those that are open.

4. You should not go to hospitals unless you have to go there. Same applies to doctors, you should only go there in case of emergency, provided you are not too sick.

5. This virus is deadly but still not too scary, except that sometimes it actually leads to a global disaster.

6. Gloves won't help, but they can still help.

7. Everyone needs to stay HOME, but it's important to GO OUT.

8. There is no shortage of groceries in the supermarket, but there are many things missing when you go there in the evening, but not in the morning. Sometimes.

9. The virus has no effect on children except those it affects.

10. Animals are not affected, but there is still a cat that tested positive in Belgium in February when no one had been tested, plus a few tigers here and there…

11. You will have many symptoms when you are sick, but you can also get sick without symptoms, have symptoms without being sick, or be contagious without having symptoms. Oh, my..

12. In order not to get sick, you have to eat well and exercise, but eat whatever you have on hand and it's better not to go out, well, but no…

13. It's better to get some fresh air, but you get looked at very wrong when you get some fresh air, and most importantly, you don't go to parks or walk. But don’t sit down, except that you can do that now if you are old, but not for too long or if you are pregnant (but not too old).

14. You can't go to retirement homes, but you have to take care of the elderly and bring food and medication.

15. If you are sick, you can't go out, but you can go to the pharmacy.

16. You can get restaurant food delivered to the house, which may have been prepared by people who didn't wear masks or gloves. But you have to have your groceries decontaminated outside for 3 hours. Pizza too?

17. Every disturbing article or disturbing interview starts with "I don't want to trigger panic, but…"

18. You can't see your older mother or grandmother, but you can take a taxi and meet an older taxi driver.

19. You can walk around with a friend but not with your family if they don't live under the same roof.

20. You are safe if you maintain the appropriate social distance, but you can’t go out with friends or strangers at the safe social distance.

21. The virus remains active on different surfaces for two hours, no, four, no, six, no, we didn't say hours, maybe days? But it takes a damp environment. Oh no, not necessarily.

22. The virus stays in the air - well no, or yes, maybe, especially in a closed room, in one hour a sick person can infect ten, so if it falls, all our children were already infected at school before it was closed. But remember, if you stay at the recommended social distance, however in certain circumstances you should maintain a greater distance, which, studies show, the virus can travel further, maybe.

23. We count the number of deaths but we don't know how many people are infected as we have only tested so far those who were "almost dead" to find out if that's what they will die of…

24. We have no treatment, except that there may be one that apparently is not dangerous unless you take too much (which is the case with all medications).

25. We should stay locked up until the virus disappears, but it will only disappear if we achieve collective immunity, so when it circulates… but we must no longer be locked up for that?

Perfection. Could not no way have said better

[Florida2014]

Not to worry folks, Trump says that we have very smart people working on a virus vaccine. The same people who created the "AIDS vaccine."

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[SanyBelle]

Originally Posted by Florida2014

Here in Jax, few people are wearing masks while in public spaces. It's clearly not "manly" enough for their redneck egos to do it.

With the RNC coming, it's simply inevitable that the cases and deaths rise here. Sad, indeed.

Here in Miami-Dade, masks are required indoors. I even see children wearing them in the grocery stores.

[whatsgoingon4]

When is this mess ever going to end? I know 1918 pandemic was mostly over after about 2-2 1/2 years. But I think it was mainly because the war ended and there wasn't as much travel. These days here are always people traveling. So I think that may make it last longer, and people are more dependent and tend to live closer together than back then.

It just seems like people keep expecting this to end soon but I see no reason we'll won't still be dealing with this a year or two from now. By five years I would expect it to have waned but that is a long time to have these restrictions.

[Jimrob1]

Florida had something like 3300 new cases today. i feel like I'm one of the few that wear a mask in businesses here.

[Compression]

It looks like Hillsboro and Orange counties are seeing the big spikes right now, based on the gis map that tracks covid. Much of the rest of the state looks relatively stable.

CN

[Daryl_G]

What is interesting is in 1918 they wore mask and understood it reduced transmission. Fast forward to 2020 where fancy computers and electronic are the norms and yet we seem to fail at such a basic concept.

I imagine none of us here would call people from 1918 soft or cry babies so why do we think wearing a mask is stupid or soft when they had no issue doing it.

To me it's simple, no shirt, no shoes, no mask, no service.

Otherwise, we will continue to have a dysfunctional economy because people with the bucks to spend (hint they are usually over age 40 in Florida) will not re-enter the economy in an impactful way. I don't care what your politics are, we share the same economy.

[boy3365]

Originally Posted by Daryl_G

What is interesting is in 1918 they wore mask and understood it reduced transmission. Fast forward to 2020 where fancy computers and electronic are the norms and yet we seem to fail at such a basic concept.

I imagine none of us here would call people from 1918 soft or cry babies so why do we think wearing a mask is stupid or soft when they had no issue doing it.

To me it's simple, no shirt, no shoes, no mask, no service.

Otherwise, we will continue to have a dysfunctional economy because people with the bucks to spend (hint they are usually over age 40 in Florida) will not re-enter the economy in an impactful way. I don't care what your politics are, we share the same economy.

I recently heard that with all of the increased safety features in cars (i.e. backup cameras, side swipe alerts, etc.), drivers aren't staying completely alert, looking out windows as intently when backing up or changing lanes, etc. as much as we used to do.

You may have something going there with the comment about 1918 attitudes vs. today. Perhaps they didn't have a bunch of charts back then showing infected rates by zip code, race/ethnicity, etc. They didn't have the same level of medicine we do. Perhaps it wasn't politicized as much as it is today. So, that could be giving people a false sense of security.

[dtran103]

Originally Posted by whatsgoingon4

When is this mess ever going to end? I know 1918 pandemic was mostly over after about 2-2 1/2 years. But I think it was mainly because the war ended and there wasn't as much travel. These days here are always people traveling. So I think that may make it last longer, and people are more dependent and tend to live closer together than back then.

It just seems like people keep expecting this to end soon but I see no reason we'll won't still be dealing with this a year or two from now. By five years I would expect it to have waned but that is a long time to have these restrictions.

It won't be five years, or even 2 years. There's probably going to be a vaccine in 1-1.5 years. The world just needs to hold out for that long. If in the slight chance that we don't have a vaccine ever and we decide to go back to "normal", it won't actually be normal either for a few more months because we'll have to go through what NYC went through in March and knowingly allow the medical system to overburden itself as the price to pay.

[whatsgoingon4]

Originally Posted by dtran103

It won't be five years, or even 2 years. There's probably going to be a vaccine in 1-1.5 years. The world just needs to hold out for that long. If in the slight chance that we don't have a vaccine ever and we decide to go back to "normal", it won't actually be normal either for a few more months because we'll have to go through what NYC went through in March and knowingly allow the medical system to overburden itself as the price to pay.

I hope there is a vaccine. What concerns me is it just doesn't seem feasible to produce billions upon billions of doses of it, vials, etc, and distribute it in such a short time to the entire world's population. Who is going to pay for it? And lots of people will refuse it due to being wary of it due to short time in testing phase, conspiracies or other reasons. I just don't see the entire population of the world all lining up to receive it, not to mention those that don't want anyone to know they exist. If it's made mandatory there would probably be a sizeable push back.

Maybe a more likely scenario is that the most at risk get the vaccine and the rest that refuse it hopefully recover and become immune for a period of time, so the vaccine helps avoid deaths in the most vulnerable, yet the population still reaches immunity one way or the other, and the pandemic can end and life can go back to normal relatively soon.

Relying on herd immunity with no vaccine could drag on for years because immunity could be too short to allow enough overlap for herd immunity. And for as contagious as it supposedly is, very few have contracted it, so if we were going that route we're nowhere close to being done with it.