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Old 03-19-2013, 11:22 AM
 
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roadrat - reading comprehension must be a 'science' to you...

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...the laws of physics do not in any way forbid bumblebee flight; there are no papers that deny bumblebee flight, and no scientist has done so... a full aerodynamic calculation will show that the bumblebee's flight works perfectly fine.
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Old 03-19-2013, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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I love all types of old-time tips - gardening, cooking, cleaning, etc. Old folks were much more resourceful and didn't run to the store for the latest chemical to solve their problem. What could have been a really nice thread has been hijacked by a few know-it-alls that must prove their knowledge is superior to those who rely on natural and old-time methods.

For those who want to grow using the scientific method, fine. For those who want to try other methods, go for it. I believe that a true gardener knows that successful gardening is achieved by lots of trial and error and is an ongoing learning process.
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Old 03-19-2013, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Maine
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The "bumblebee argument", in pseudoscience, states that the laws of aerodynamics prove that the bumblebee can't fly, as it does not have the required capacity (in terms of wing area or flapping speed). Consequently, therefore, science can be shown to be in error, providing a loophole for pseudoscientific "explanations"...
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Just because you have taken to calling previous generations of scientist work "pseudoscience" does not mean that they were not scientist. Do you concider Issac Newton a Pseudo-scientist?
At some point way back when a person (possibly a scientist) was studying the Bumble Bee and could not understand why it could fly (with the knowledge they had at the time) and so put the question out to the scientific community to find out the answer (this would explain your so called myth that has been around for so long) once science advanced and they knew the answer, the mystery was solved.

My reading comprehension is just fine, as is my understanding of history and common sense and how myth's and old wives tales come into being.
Maybe you should join us in the real world and learn some common sense, it will do you good

bill
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Old 03-19-2013, 01:26 PM
 
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The OP never says where they place them, how many or what type but if I were to do so I would have placed it right under the seedling. I have planted seeds only to find a fungus had over taken them so a pinch of sulfur under them would have been benefical. And yes when I was a teen, which was many moons ago, science was confused that insect could fly when by scientific theory they were not supposedly able to do so. Now they understand this. This how quickly theories can change or become obsolete.
You have no way of knowing if trhe sulphur in a match head is (a) enough, or (b) a form of sulphur that is beneficial to plants. Buy some elemental sulphur to be sure. Save the matches for lighting the grill.
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Old 03-19-2013, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Maine
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You have no way of knowing if trhe sulphur in a match head is (a) enough, or (b) a form of sulphur that is beneficial to plants. Buy some elemental sulphur to be sure. Save the matches for lighting the grill.
would it not be good science to study putting matches under some seedlings and not under others in a controlled environment to see if (a) there is enough, or (b) it is the right form of sulphur. Instead you advise going to the giant megamart and buy, buy, buy. In case you haven't noticed the economy is not that great we all cannot afford to run down to the store to buy your fancy chemicals. and besides what is the smallest size container of sulphur the garden store has to sell 1lb, 5lb if I am only planting a doz. tomatoes maybe a free book of matches will be plenty.
Do you really want every backyard garden shed packed with aging chemicals that we only use a teaspoon full a season.


bill
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Old 03-19-2013, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Buffalo, New York
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I was expecting this to be a fun little thread, go figure some "think they know it all "master" gardeners" would come along and ruin all the fun right off the bat. Couldn't make it past page 2.
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Old 03-19-2013, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Summerville, SC
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I, for one, appreciate when subject matter experts debunk certain theories. I can buy a 5lb bag of sulphur for about $6, if I needed it, and would amend the soil under my azaleas and hydrangeas as well. Don't think it expires all that quickly, either. It's probably the one thing I don't need for my garden either - I tend to stock up on lime for the plants that aren't too fond of my soil.
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Old 03-19-2013, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Went around the corner & now I'm lost!!!!
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I believe that scientific theory had said that the Bumble Bee should not be able to fly.

bill
Your are RIGHT!! Thank you for jarring my memory
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Old 03-19-2013, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Went around the corner & now I'm lost!!!!
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would it not be good science to study putting matches under some seedlings and not under others in a controlled environment to see if (a) there is enough, or (b) it is the right form of sulphur. Instead you advise going to the giant megamart and buy, buy, buy. In case you haven't noticed the economy is not that great we all cannot afford to run down to the store to buy your fancy chemicals. and besides what is the smallest size container of sulphur the garden store has to sell 1lb, 5lb if I am only planting a doz. tomatoes maybe a free book of matches will be plenty.
Do you really want every backyard garden shed packed with aging chemicals that we only use a teaspoon full a season.


bill
Only a GOOD researcher seeking the truth would do such a thing as testing a theory I believe TMG doesn't know the definition of a theory is SUPPOSition of ideas INTENDED to explain something and a hypothesis is defined as a SUPPOSition or PROPOSED explanantion made on the basis of LIMITED evidence as a STARTING POINT of further investigation because if she did, she would have ended this debate some time ago.

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Old 03-19-2013, 05:44 PM
 
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would it not be good science to study putting matches under some seedlings and not under others in a controlled environment to see if (a) there is enough, or (b) it is the right form of sulphur. Instead you advise going to the giant megamart and buy, buy, buy. In case you haven't noticed the economy is not that great we all cannot afford to run down to the store to buy your fancy chemicals. and besides what is the smallest size container of sulphur the garden store has to sell 1lb, 5lb if I am only planting a doz. tomatoes maybe a free book of matches will be plenty.
Do you really want every backyard garden shed packed with aging chemicals that we only use a teaspoon full a season.


bill
I never said a thing about going to a megamart. You're engaging in the most immature form of debate and attributing me with things I never said. Get some elemental sulphur. Get it at a local nursery. Make sure it's a form of sulphur the plants can take up, or didn't you know that minerals need to be in specific form for plants to use them?

Besides, I doubt very much your tomatoes even need extra sulphur. Do a soil test. It's silly to do anything to your soil until you know what you're starting with.
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