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Old 10-03-2010, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Pasadena
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Technically it's the second

The Acela is actually the first, although just barely.

HSR (Europe):
120mph+ for upgraded tracks
160mph+ for new tracks

HSR (U.S.):
110mph+

So the Acela is in the clear, however Cali's will be the first to run on it's own special tracks however it's not the first HSR in this country.
The high-speed trains in California will go up to 220mph.
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Old 10-03-2010, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Queens, NY
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The high-speed trains in California will go up to 220mph.
Very impressive, had the Acela had it's own tracks I bet it'd be just as fast. I'd love to ride that one day, imagine the views. Certainly the most impressive in the U.S.. But still no matter how fast/better it is it's still not the first (not that it even matters).

Nexus is exhibiting some sort of weird train superiority complex.
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Old 10-03-2010, 04:16 PM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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Very impressive, had the Acela had it's own tracks I bet it'd be just as fast. I'd love to ride that one day, imagine the views. Certainly the most impressive in the U.S.. But still no matter how fast/better it is it's still not the first (not that it even matters).

Nexus is exhibiting some sort of weird train superiority complex.
Its more like bragging rights , but if you lived in this region your used to it....

Lets see.....well breakdown the 2040 plan state by state...

Virginia

Current system size : 90 mi
added Miles of Electrified Rail : 116
added Miles of Diesel Rail : 517


New Hampshire

Current system size : 0
added Miles of Diesel Rail : 43


New Jersey

Current system size : 570 mi
added Miles of DMU Rail : 160
added Miles of Electrified Rail : 78
added Miles of Diesel Rail : 567
added Miles of Intercity Rail : 133


Lower Hudson Valley

Current system size : 156 mi
added Miles of Diesel Rail : 185
added Miles of Electrified Rail : 47


Northeastern PA

Current system size : 0
added Miles of Diesel / Intercity Rail : 193


Southeastern PA

Current system size : 450
added Miles of Electrified Rail : 229
added Miles of DMU : 92
added Miles of Intercity Rail : 108


Amish Country

Current system size : 0
added Miles of Electrified Rail : 36
added Miles of Intercity Rail : 325
added Miles of Diesel Rail : 47


Connecticut

Current system size : 132
added Miles of Diesel Rail : 248
added Miles of Electrified Rail : 74
added Miles of Intercity Rail : 58


Massachusetts

Current system size : 368
added Miles of Intercity Rail : 270
added Miles of Electrified Rail : 102
added Miles of Diesel Rail : 342


Maine

Current system size : 0
added Miles of Diesel Rail : 29



Delaware

Current system size : 20 mi
added Miles of Diesel Rail : 249


Maryland

Current system size : 187 mi
added Miles of Diesel Rail : 89


Rhode Island

Current system size : 30
added Miles of Electrified Rail : 76


Upstate New York


Current System size : 0
Added miles of Diesel Rail : 58
Added miles of Intercity Rail : 632



Current JCT cities

Newark
Philly
Rahway
Trenton
NYC
Boston
Springfield
Norristown
Lansdale
Baltimore
DC
Secaucus


Future JCT Cities

Harrisburg
Allentown
Philipsburg
Dover
New London
Worcester
Providence
Reading
Binghamton
Hartford
Waterbury
Danbury
Beacon
Wilmington
Fredrick
Newark,DE
Richmond
New Brunswick
Camden
Lynchburg
Syracuse
Rochester
Buffalo
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Old 10-03-2010, 07:16 PM
 
Location: Pasadena
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Originally Posted by Nexis4Jersey View Post
Its more like bragging rights , but if you lived in this region your used to it....

Lets see.....well breakdown the 2040 plan state by state...

Virginia

Current system size : 90 mi
added Miles of Electrified Rail : 116
added Miles of Diesel Rail : 517


New Hampshire

Current system size : 0
added Miles of Diesel Rail : 43


New Jersey

Current system size : 570 mi
added Miles of DMU Rail : 160
added Miles of Electrified Rail : 78
added Miles of Diesel Rail : 567
added Miles of Intercity Rail : 133


Lower Hudson Valley

Current system size : 156 mi
added Miles of Diesel Rail : 185
added Miles of Electrified Rail : 47


Northeastern PA

Current system size : 0
added Miles of Diesel / Intercity Rail : 193


Southeastern PA

Current system size : 450
added Miles of Electrified Rail : 229
added Miles of DMU : 92
added Miles of Intercity Rail : 108


Amish Country

Current system size : 0
added Miles of Electrified Rail : 36
added Miles of Intercity Rail : 325
added Miles of Diesel Rail : 47


Connecticut

Current system size : 132
added Miles of Diesel Rail : 248
added Miles of Electrified Rail : 74
added Miles of Intercity Rail : 58


Massachusetts

Current system size : 368
added Miles of Intercity Rail : 270
added Miles of Electrified Rail : 102
added Miles of Diesel Rail : 342


Maine

Current system size : 0
added Miles of Diesel Rail : 29



Delaware

Current system size : 20 mi
added Miles of Diesel Rail : 249


Maryland

Current system size : 187 mi
added Miles of Diesel Rail : 89


Rhode Island

Current system size : 30
added Miles of Electrified Rail : 76


Upstate New York


Current System size : 0
Added miles of Diesel Rail : 58
Added miles of Intercity Rail : 632



Current JCT cities

Newark
Philly
Rahway
Trenton
NYC
Boston
Springfield
Norristown
Lansdale
Baltimore
DC
Secaucus


Future JCT Cities

Harrisburg
Allentown
Philipsburg
Dover
New London
Worcester
Providence
Reading
Binghamton
Hartford
Waterbury
Danbury
Beacon
Wilmington
Fredrick
Newark,DE
Richmond
New Brunswick
Camden
Lynchburg
Syracuse
Rochester
Buffalo
What you present is 30 years away. We are in 2010. What state has done what California has committed to? NONE. Let's at least be for real.
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Old 10-03-2010, 08:10 PM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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What you present is 30 years away. We are in 2010. What state has done what California has committed to? NONE. Let's at least be for real.
Yea , but half of that will be completed in 15 years. Half of that will connect all the Major cities in the Northeast. The Second phase will connect the rest. New England is committed to at least 15 projects , NJ is committed to 5 projects , they won't cost much since there just restorations. Most lines will have a top speed of 120mph.
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Old 10-03-2010, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Pasadena
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Yea , but half of that will be completed in 15 years. Half of that will connect all the Major cities in the Northeast. The Second phase will connect the rest. New England is committed to at least 15 projects , NJ is committed to 5 projects , they won't cost much since there just restorations. Most lines will have a top speed of 120mph.
Wow, that's really impressive since Amtrak already travels at 90mph in California! I ask again: what state other than California has put money where their mouth is? We have made the commitment of higher taxes to bring high-speed rail to our state. What other state has done the same? To my knowledge: NONE. What does that mean? For Republican states like Texas and Nebraska it means nothing since their citizens are selfish and lack long-term goals. But for New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania it suggests disinterest and boring do-nothingness! Personally, I am proud to live in California for many self-evident reasons.
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Old 10-03-2010, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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You seem to change the subject every time you are rebuffed. To my knowledge, there is no other high-speed rail project in the nation other than California, the largest state in the country. The train line will go from San Diego thru Los Angeles, over the mountains into the Central Valley and then over another set of mountains into San Jose and San Francisco. It will be an engineering marvel and the largest ever American infra-structure project. By making fun of it without having any other project to compare seems like pure jealousy.
Do you seriously believe this? And for that matter, is it even possible for you to engage in a conversation without lapsing into middle school "California is the greatest, you're just jealous, nanny nanny boo-boo" rhetoric?
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Old 10-03-2010, 08:27 PM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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Wow, that's really impressive since Amtrak already travels at 90mph in California! I ask again: what state other than California has put money where their mouth is? We have made the commitment of higher taxes to bring high-speed rail to our state. What other state has done the same? To my knowledge: NONE. What does that mean? For Republican states like Texas and Nebraska it means nothing since their citizens are selfish and lack long-term goals. But for New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania it suggests disinterest and boring do-nothingness! Personally, I am proud to live in California for many self-evident reasons.
We don't need to raise taxes , most projects are cheap enough that they use Transportation or Toll Funds $$$. Or some projects are private , most Rail lines here only take 2 years to build and are used far more then the West Coast. Although Chicagoland is pretty = to us.
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Old 10-03-2010, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Pasadena
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Do you seriously believe this? And for that matter, is it even possible for you to engage in a conversation without lapsing into middle school "California is the greatest, you're just jealous, nanny nanny boo-boo" rhetoric?
Put up or shut up! I ask again: what state other than California has voted to increase taxes for high-speed rail? NONE. And what is even worse is that this was a proposition voted on by the electorate not the legislature. It was the people of California who directly raised their own taxes to pay for "bullet" trains. Unless there is another state that can claim the same than it is clear that California is progressive well beyond every other state and those other states should be ashamed for their lack of commitment and interest.
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Old 10-03-2010, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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So then, I guess the answer is "no."

Grow up, kid.
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