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Sorry, but if your not NYC, DC, LA or Chicago, you all are equal. Sorry, that's just how it is. All other cities don't have too much of an impact on america be it political, economic, or entertainment.
Exactly. Thank you. What people need to realize is that proper populations are what most people know about, and what most people care about.
All I know is that now a lot of places that were considered small towns as recently as 10 years ago are now called "suburbs" of Mpls/St Paul in the media, places such as Rogers, Hudson, WI, Elko, and Forest Lake. Sprawl has reached those towns and lots of those who moved into them are from closer in suburbs, so I guess they still consider themselves suburbanites and Twin Citians, even though those who've lived there longer wouldn't do so.
In every industry that evaluates "cities" they are markets which are often either the census defined metropolitan areas or consolidated metro areas, or an expanded version of them. But never the city by itself, because it would not make sense.
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Great point. Here's a perfect example by using sports. Boston's city population is 700,000 less than San Antonio's city population. Boston's city population is not even in the top 10 largest cities in the US. But Boston has the Celtics, Red Sox, Patriots, and Bruins. San Antonio only has the Spurs and is trying to get an NFL team but knows they have no shot of getting an NFL team because the "market" is too small. Boston market(not the food place) has millions more living in the market or metro area than San Antonio thus why they have more teams than San Antonio. There are other examples. But it shows how irrelevant city population numbers really become.
Atlanta is a major hub city. That's why it receives a lot of importance. The area is very appealing too. Red dirt, lots of hills, mountains, long summers, pines, ferns. Its just beautiful area. Georgia is like a southern Ohio. Though it has the biggest city, bigger mountains, sunnier and warmer weather, and it touches an ocean. But they're similar in the landlocked natural beauty and uniqueness.
If you think about it for a second the city population actually doesnt mean that much. You cant even really compare city populations because of places like Louisville who just absorb the whole county and double the population. And then there are places like Houston who take up like 600 sq miles which isnt fair to the cities that have smaller land areas. If Cleveland absorbed the rest of Cuyahoga county it would have a population of 1.4 million making it the 7th largest city in America and it would still take up a lot less land area than Houston.
Location: Mableton, GA USA (NW Atlanta suburb, 4 miles OTP)
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I actually think MPLS is already on ATLs level, even if its more expensive. MPLS is home to several large corporations and offers a good quality of life.
I've lived in both, and they compare favorably in some respects, but MSP has a much better layout in terms of automobile and bike transportation while ATL has a much nicer climate and a lot more "history". Both have large sprawling suburbs surrounding the center core cities, and both have a lot of trees. Oh, yeah, and both are hubs for major airlines, making for a better selection of direct flights (even though folks living in both like to grumble about their home airlines from time to time). :-)
The problem with Atlanta is that in the 1960s, the city negotiated with Fulton and DeKalb Counties not to annex any more land, thus the city limits have remained constricted. If we were to include all areas that have "Atlanta" mailing addresses and should be part of the city proper (i.e. unincorporated portions of Fulton, DeKalb, and Cobb Counties), than the city's population would double. Atlanta's CBD serves not only the city itself, but the surrounding metro as well, thus the reason why Atlanta's CBD is so much larger and prominent than city propers of comparable size such as Austin and Louisville.
I've heard that before, What a dumb move. Why did they do that? Is it going to be lifted anytime soon? Maybe it can ease our sprawl a bit...I would love for City Of Atlanta to annex more land.
Atlanta is the perfect example of why building an interstate loop around the outside of the city (I-285) isn't always a good idea...
Raleigh is doing it now (incomplete). It also has an inner loop also. Raleigh and the surrounding areas will NO DOUBT be like Atlanta in the near future. That is why I'm getting the hell out. Traffic and sprawl is bad enough now.
How much did the Olympics stimulate growth in Atlanta?
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