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Great thread idea. The NYC metro area is very unique in this regard since the city and state have the same name but don't identify with each other. These are my observations:
People from Manhattan tend to identify with their neighborhoods, unless they're outside of Manhattan, at which point they'll identify with New York City and not Manhattan.
People in the outer boroughs will also identify with their neighborhoods, but unlike in Manhattan, they identify with their boroughs and not NYC when outside of the boroughs, no matter where they are in the entire country.
It seems like people in NJ or LI seem to identify with these places when outside of NJ or LI instead of individual cities, but if they're in NJ or LI, then they'll identify with a specific city.
In Westchester County, people identify with their individual cities inside and outside of the county.
People from CT tend to identify more with that particular state.
Quite a number of U.S. cities have become much larger in population than they used to be. Since most Americans now live in metropolitan areas, they have come to identify more with cities than states.
Plus, most major U.S. cities have much higher GDPs than they used to. If you travel abroad, then you need to have money. You are more likely to have money if you live in a major metropolitan area than if you don't .
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My city. St. Louis is very distinct from the rest of Missouri. That said, the 4 or 5 cultural state thing...most states are divided like that, at least ones in the lower Midwest. The Great Plains states, MO, IL, IN, and OH all have very sharp contrasts within the boundaries of their states. I'm not sure actually if I can think of one state where the culture is all the same unless that state happens to be tiny. In general, I've hard a hard time really finding major cities that represent all of their states, as the difference in urban and rural culture is always big.
The city without a doubt. Nobody I know in NYC identifies with NY state. For all practical purposes NYC and, its suburbs ARE a different state than the rest of New York.
I live in Georgia, in the northern suburbs of Atlanta, and it's always a quick drive up to the mountains. I feel connected to all parts of my state, as well as the south, in general. I definitely identify with the Atlanta region, but feel very little connection to transplants that share nothing in common with me. Georgians and other southern natives throughout metro Atlanta are identifiable to me, meaning that I feel a connection to them.
Since I travel a lot, the state takes on more meaning for me than does the metro area I live in. I enjoy all areas, rural, suburban, and even urban. Hence, I suppose that I identify with all of my state. A lot of "urbanists" or "country-haters" despise the rural areas of their state so much, they choose to not identify with it, and to instead only identify with their metro region.
Great thread idea. The NYC metro area is very unique in this regard since the city and state have the same name but don't identify with each other. These are my observations:
People from Manhattan tend to identify with their neighborhoods, unless they're outside of Manhattan, at which point they'll identify with New York City and not Manhattan.
People in the outer boroughs will also identify with their neighborhoods, but unlike in Manhattan, they identify with their boroughs and not NYC when outside of the boroughs, no matter where they are in the entire country.
I disagree about the NYC boroughs. People that live in the boroughs identify with NYC in general (and not in particularly with their borough unless asked to specify in what part of the city they live).
i think the only states that are NOT identified by their states as much but their cities/city is New York, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Louisiana, Illinois, Missouri, Maryland and Kentucky
try traveling and telling people that you are from any of those states and they will assume that you are from nyc, philly, pittsburgh, atl, nola, chi, st. louis, dc, baltimore, or louiville...it could get offensive for those who live in smaller cities in those particular states
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