Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > General U.S.
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 10-23-2007, 10:18 PM
 
Location: City of North Las Vegas, NV
12,600 posts, read 9,389,597 times
Reputation: 3487

Advertisements

Gary Indiana for the win.

From booming steel town in the 60's to murder capital and an empty city today

more here:

Urban exploration: Gary, Indiana, ghost town

Last edited by WildWestDude; 10-23-2007 at 10:28 PM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 10-23-2007, 10:31 PM
 
Location: C.R. K-T
6,202 posts, read 11,452,611 times
Reputation: 3809
Philadelphia. The reason the Constitutional Congress was called there was because it was the largest city in the Colonies.

Geography had a hand in it's decline. Pennsylvania had a hard time competing with the Erie Canal because of the hilly terrain. It was too inland compared to New York City. It still sits in the shadow of New York City. The greatness of New York could have belonged to Philadelphia. Can you imagine Center City being the place to be instead of Manhattan? The same could be said about San Francisco over Los Angeles.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-23-2007, 11:35 PM
 
Location: Villanova Pa.
4,927 posts, read 14,216,234 times
Reputation: 2715
In 1790 Philaldephia was the financial,cultural, and political capital of the country. DC wasn't even on the map yet, it was nothing but farmland. The plan was to build the permanent capital in NW Philadelphia(Germantown) to replace the temporary US capital being housed in the Pa. state house(Independence Hall)

NY and Va. were very wary of Philaldephia having so much power and they basically stole the capital from Philaldephia. george washington (Va) Thomas Jefferson (Va.), James Madison (Va.) and alexander hamilton(NY) hatched a plan which would see Philadlephias banking industry end up in NYC, and the political machine end up on a Maryland farm.. You scratch my back..... They were kind enough to leave Philaldephia some theaters/concert halls etc. but of course inevitably NYC became the cultural center as well.


After Benjamin Franklin and Robert Morris(wealthiest person in all of america at that time) passed Philadlephia lost alot of its luster and power.If those two could have held on for another decade or so the capital of the US most likely would have been in Philadelphia.

90% of the senate + congress wanted to make Philadlephia the capital.Viewed as the best city of the US at that time. The problem was that the 4 head honchos at the time didn't. Washington,Jefferson(Sec of State) Alexander Hamilton(Sec of Treasury) James Madsion(Father of the Constitution)
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-24-2007, 12:28 AM
 
Location: Fairfax
2,904 posts, read 6,916,828 times
Reputation: 1282
Quote:
Originally Posted by rainrock View Post
In 1790 Philaldephia was the financial,cultural, and political capital of the country. DC wasn't even on the map yet, it was nothing but farmland. The plan was to build the permanent capital in NW Philadelphia(Germantown) to replace the temporary US capital being housed in the Pa. state house(Independence Hall)

NY and Va. were very wary of Philaldephia having so much power and they basically stole the capital from Philaldephia. george washington (Va) Thomas Jefferson (Va.), James Madison (Va.) and alexander hamilton(NY) hatched a plan which would see Philadlephias banking industry end up in NYC, and the political machine end up on a Maryland farm.. You scratch my back..... They were kind enough to leave Philaldephia some theaters/concert halls etc. but of course inevitably NYC became the cultural center as well.


After Benjamin Franklin and Robert Morris(wealthiest person in all of america at that time) passed Philadlephia lost alot of its luster and power.If those two could have held on for another decade or so the capital of the US most likely would have been in Philadelphia.

90% of the senate + congress wanted to make Philadlephia the capital.Viewed as the best city of the US at that time. The problem was that the 4 head honchos at the time didn't. Washington,Jefferson(Sec of State) Alexander Hamilton(Sec of Treasury) James Madsion(Father of the Constitution)
Well, no doubt that Philly isn't as important as it was in colonial times. It is still a pretty important city though. The only thing that hurts it is being overshadowed by NYC. Maybe if we ever build a bullet train between Philly and NYC, Philly can truly benefit from being so close to the capital of the Western hemisphere,.

I would still rank it way behind Charleston though. New York, Philly, Boston, and Charleston were all in the same league and look what happened in the last 200 years. Philadelphia population 1800-41,000 Charleston population 1800- 20,000
Philadelphia population 2007-1.5 Million Charleston- 100,000
Philly metro area- 5.8 million Charleston- 600,000

Last edited by destinedtodave; 10-24-2007 at 12:41 AM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-24-2007, 09:31 AM
 
73,012 posts, read 62,607,656 times
Reputation: 21929
Quote:
Originally Posted by WildWestDude View Post
Gary Indiana for the win.

From booming steel town in the 60's to murder capital and an empty city today

more here:

Urban exploration: Gary, Indiana, ghost town

I'm not surprised. I think this is part of why Joe Jackson wanted to get his family out of Gary.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-24-2007, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Omaha, Ne
884 posts, read 1,034,387 times
Reputation: 119
Shoeless Joe? The baseball player?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-24-2007, 04:11 PM
 
73,012 posts, read 62,607,656 times
Reputation: 21929
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve_W View Post
Shoeless Joe? The baseball player?
No. Joe Jackson, the father of Michael Jackson.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-24-2007, 09:15 PM
 
Location: Orange, California
1,576 posts, read 6,350,124 times
Reputation: 758
How about Centralia, PA. OK...maybe it never reached the height of power, but you have to admit it has taken quite a nose dive since an underground fire has been burning underneath the town for 45 years.

Centralia, Pennsylvania - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-25-2007, 02:58 AM
 
2,153 posts, read 5,538,358 times
Reputation: 655
Quote:
Originally Posted by goozer View Post
How about Centralia, PA. OK...maybe it never reached the height of power, but you have to admit it has taken quite a nose dive since an underground fire has been burning underneath the town for 45 years.

Centralia, Pennsylvania - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Is this the town that Silent Hill the movie was based on? I didn't click your link but that had a town where a fire was burning underground.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-25-2007, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Omaha, Ne
884 posts, read 1,034,387 times
Reputation: 119
Quote:
Originally Posted by pirate_lafitte View Post
No. Joe Jackson, the father of Michael Jackson.
Lol, I'm retarded.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > General U.S.

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top