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Indeed. The "old money" sophisticated history of Philadelphia gets overshadowed by its much more recent reputation for blue-collar grit, but it's absolutely as much part of the city's DNA as its former "workshop of the world" status.
Philadelphia was one of the first and by far one of the largest hubs of residents on the "Social Register," for one, which was a "gold standard" for sophistication.
A city also doesn't start off as the nation's capital by being a "backwater" town.
I must say that one is HIGHLY debatable. Think of the mentality of the framers of our own constitution. Nothing sophisticated about it, in my opinion. Written by framers FOR framers.
I must say that one is HIGHLY debatable. Think of the mentality of the framers of our own constitution. Nothing sophisticated about it, in my opinion. Written by framers FOR framers.
Not sure what you're getting at, here. The framers were highly influential and prominent statesmen of their time. Certainly the drafting the Constitution required a LOT of intellectual wherewithal.
It's not a flawless document, and certainly the framers did represent only a very narrow subset of the population. But despite those obvious critiques, starting and running a national government absolutely requires sophistication.
Indeed. The "old money" sophisticated history of Philadelphia gets overshadowed by its much more recent reputation for blue-collar grit, but it's absolutely as much part of the city's DNA as its former "workshop of the world" status.
Philadelphia was one of the first and by far one of the largest hubs of residents on the "Social Register," for one, which was a "gold standard" for sophistication.
A city also doesn't start off as the nation's capital by being a "backwater" town.
When Philadelphia was the nation's capital, the population west of Philadelphia consisted of territories, not states, not large cities, etc., to compete. SO, there weren't a whole lot of "big city" options for a US capitol. One's perspective has to change, with the way the country has grown since then. Not to say Philadelphia isn't sophisticated, but it's not what one sees, when watching an Eagle's game, lol. I think Philly has a reputation, as well, for being a little rough around the edges.
When Philadelphia was the nation's capital, the population west of Philadelphia consisted of territories, not states, not large cities, etc., to compete. SO, there weren't a whole lot of "big city" options for a US capitol. One's perspective has to change, with the way the country has grown since then. Not to say Philadelphia isn't sophisticated, but it's not what one sees, when watching an Eagle's game, lol. I think Philly has a reputation, as well, for being a little rough around the edges.
Not disagreeing in the least. Only suggesting that the "rough around the edges" reputation is rather one-sided (and I don't think "sports culture" is sophisticated in any city, lol). But folks very often overlook Philly's rich history as a cultural hub for "finer" things.
I think most large cities have an element of sophistication, and by sheet size alone, are cosmopolitan. "Element" being my key word. There is not one city that contains all sophisticates. SF and LA have way too many people in tents along the streets. While there are sophisticates in both cities, one can't be blind to the other. NYC, Chicago and Philly have sophisticates, and along with that, bad neighborhoods with crime. I hope there's no one here arguing that any one city is "sophisticated", and that's that. That city doesn't exist.
Indeed. The "old money" sophisticated history of Philadelphia gets overshadowed by its much more recent reputation for blue-collar grit, but it's absolutely as much part of the city's DNA as its former "workshop of the world" status.
Philadelphia was one of the first and by far one of the largest hubs of residents on the "Social Register," for one, which was a "gold standard" for sophistication.
A city also doesn't start off as the nation's capital by being a "backwater" town.
As a southerner, I lumped everything from Boston to DC as sophisticated, along with Miami and most of the west coast.
Does Philly have meatheads, yes, so does NYC, Paris and London
Yes, but the density levels highly favor Philly and there is no argument there.
Uh huh.
I've criss-crossed and met many people across this great nation. And many from international locales.
If there's one thing I've gleaned, it's that the "meathead" density is pretty evenly dispersed across the globe, even in the supposedly wealthiest, urbane and most educated places.
Overall, sophistication isn't a place; it's a mindset that can take residence anywhere.
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Uh huh.
Overall, sophistication isn't a place; it's a mindset that can take residence anywhere.
And it can travel with a person as well….if an Ivy or Stanford educated, well traveled and cultured individual moves from a highly regarded sophisticated city to a lesser one do they suddenly become dumb and unsophisticated?
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