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Thank you for your common sense that seems to be lost on people who move here to NC!
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Originally Posted by sleepless in Bham
Yall this who is southern and who isn't discussion is getting a bit old. North Carolina and Virginia are in the South, and are culturally southern. I will never understand people who move here and then try to claim how less southern it is. Even worse, native southerners who try to prove to the world that their city is somehow not southern.
Maybe I should start claiming that Birmingham isn't Southern because of heavy industrial history and its current rust belt like characteristics.
They're not becoming less Southern. Northern Virginia is the only part of Virginia today that is less Southern than it was before...it's actually no longer even really Southern. But the rest of Virginia and North Carolina are still very much the South.
Considering the law passed recently, no North Carolina seems firmly Southern. Virginia is a modern sense for the most part is not southern, especially the northern DC suburbs. Again these are generalities, nothing is black and white.
Considering the law passed recently, no North Carolina seems firmly Southern. Virginia is a modern sense for the most part is not southern, especially the northern DC suburbs. Again these are generalities, nothing is black and white.
Virginia for the most part IS Southern demographically, culturally, and linguistically. Only NOVA is not Southern.
Virginia is becoming less southern due to the transplanted liberal elite and illegal immigrants in Northern Virginia. Politically is it not as southern as it used to be with Obama winning both times and a Democrat winning the governor now despite that candidate's support for abortion and illegal immigration and his war on coal.
For me, personally, you cannot be a real, true Southerner and be liberal. And I consider anyone to the left of Bill Clinton to be liberal. Obama is extremely liberal.
There have always been southern liberals. I live in a county that hasn't been won by a Republican presidential candidate since the 1920s. Those are not carpetbaggers... many of them are 3rd, 4th, 5th generation residents. They are southern. There has always been a liberal minority in the major cities in the south as well. The US is a mix and there are very few places where one ideology is nonexistant. And states change over time! Vermont was the most conservative state in the nation in 1932. Now it's the most liberal. States like VA and NC could change over time. Even GA and TX could change as well in the long term. As the issues of the day change the constituencies will change.
Lyndon B. Johnson was from Texas. Jesse Jackson was from South Carolina. Martin Luther King was from Georgia.
They're not becoming less Southern. Northern Virginia is the only part of Virginia today that is less Southern than it was before...it's actually no longer even really Southern. But the rest of Virginia and North Carolina are still very much the South.
maybe not in traditional politics but horse country in loudoun county where my mother is from is still pretty southern in places. northern virginia probably the most southern region in the country in civil war history. you cant go anywhere without a civil war battle site, Virginia has more important Civil War battlefields and sites than any other state.
a place like fairfax county is alot like southern florida, high in immigration, 50 percent of the kids in fairfax schools speak a language other than english at home
I just don't get why everyone lumps va and nc together so often. These places are more different than the obvious similarities.
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Originally Posted by Nema98
Considering the law passed recently, no North Carolina seems firmly Southern. Virginia is a modern sense for the most part is not southern, especially the northern DC suburbs. Again these are generalities, nothing is black and white.
Northern VA is Mid-Atlantic, Richmond kind of straddles the line between the Upper South and Mid-Atlantic but is arguably more southern, and Raleigh/Durham is comfortably in the South.
Northern VA is Mid-Atlantic, Richmond kind of straddles the line between the Upper South and Mid-Atlantic but is arguably more southern, and Raleigh/Durham is comfortably in the South.
This.
Richmond is known to be the dividing line between the "south" and the mid-Atlantic.
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