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Old 03-23-2014, 11:46 PM
 
Location: Taipei
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oakparkdude nailed it above. walkscore is far from perfect, but it is fairly useful if you break down the neighborhoods. and zip car is an excellent indicator as well.

As for the largest carless households, it's cool but also a bit deceiving. Some cities have far more impoverished communities that can't afford cars than middle class who choose to live carless.
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Old 03-24-2014, 05:53 AM
 
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oakparkdude nailed it above. walkscore is far from perfect, but it is fairly useful if you break down the neighborhoods. and zip car is an excellent indicator as well.

As for the largest carless households, it's cool but also a bit deceiving. Some cities have far more impoverished communities that can't afford cars than middle class who choose to live carless.
I don't think the last statement makes complete sense. A lot of it has to do with a college presence or just a matter of room or the lack thereof for a car.

Here's another article: The Most Walkable Cities and How Some Are Making Strides

and another: Where Do Most Commuters Walk to Work?

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Old 03-24-2014, 10:07 PM
 
Location: Taipei
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Sorry I wasn't very clear. I've been spending less time on CD and therefore rushing through my posts much more quickly than before.

My point is that in many cases households have no car because they can't afford one, not because they would choose to be carless. Like great public transit seeks "choice riders," these cities don't have as many "choice carless." Of course there is a percentage of those households in every city, but for a number of the cities on that list (Detroit, Miami, New Orleans, Gary, East LA, just to name a few) I'd bet that the majority of the carless households aren't so by choice.
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Old 03-24-2014, 10:20 PM
 
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Me and my girlfriend of 5 years just made a very similar move after she graduated college (im 23 shes 22) from the south chicago suburbs to Austin, Texas and we absolutely love it so far. I would consider it...one of the fastest growing areas in the country, access to Dallas-Houston-San Antonio, Ocean is not overly far away, warm weather all year round, low unemployment, rated one of the safest large cities in the country, plenty of amenities, awesome night life, U of Texas campus, awesome scenery and access to nature (hills, rivers, lakes) and a great clash of locals/people who moved here from somewhere else. Tons of people from Cali-Illinois-northeast-Florida. Makes it a very unique place.
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Old 03-25-2014, 04:53 PM
 
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Me and my girlfriend of 5 years just made a very similar move after she graduated college (im 23 shes 22) from the south chicago suburbs to Austin, Texas and we absolutely love it so far. I would consider it...one of the fastest growing areas in the country, access to Dallas-Houston-San Antonio, Ocean is not overly far away, warm weather all year round, low unemployment, rated one of the safest large cities in the country, plenty of amenities, awesome night life, U of Texas campus, awesome scenery and access to nature (hills, rivers, lakes) and a great clash of locals/people who moved here from somewhere else. Tons of people from Cali-Illinois-northeast-Florida. Makes it a very unique place.
We've considered Austin as we've heard it's kind of an unknown enclave for artsy types. My bf is really concerned about avoiding heat though (the Midwest gets really humid in the summer as I'm sure you know). I'm assuming Austin would be worse or is that incorrect?
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Old 03-26-2014, 03:05 PM
 
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The city is very "artsy", plenty of "hipsters", and the self proclaimed "music capital of the world" where on any given night there are over 100 venues playing live music. It really just depends as far as weather. In Chicago it gets extremely humid..so it may be only 85-90 but it will feel 10 degrees warmer. The humidity isnt nearly as bad here...but make no mistake it will be hot. The difference for us was that we would rather take the heat for 3-4 months (where you can swim etc) over the freezing cold. Plus in the winter in Chicago there is no relief in winter whether its the morning, afternoon, or night. Here at least in the summer there is some relief during the heat in the morning and night.
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Old 03-26-2014, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Oak Park, IL
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The city is very "artsy", plenty of "hipsters", and the self proclaimed "music capital of the world" where on any given night there are over 100 venues playing live music. It really just depends as far as weather. In Chicago it gets extremely humid..so it may be only 85-90 but it will feel 10 degrees warmer. The humidity isnt nearly as bad here...but make no mistake it will be hot. The difference for us was that we would rather take the heat for 3-4 months (where you can swim etc) over the freezing cold. Plus in the winter in Chicago there is no relief in winter whether its the morning, afternoon, or night. Here at least in the summer there is some relief during the heat in the morning and night.
How common is it to go car-free in Austin?
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Old 03-26-2014, 08:31 PM
 
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How car-centric is your city? Public transit ranked

They are talking about a rail system as well. Austin, as with the rest of Texas cities, loves our vehicles. It is however not a necessity depending on where you work, and live. If you live downtown you most likely wouldnt need a car. But for me I cant imagine not wanting/needing a car in Austin, Chicago or wherever. I never used public transportation in Chicago. But Austin is in the process of improving its public transportation...and it needs to do it fast because thousands move here weekly and the roads are already packed!
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Old 03-26-2014, 08:33 PM
 
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Cleveland could be another possibility.
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Old 03-26-2014, 08:45 PM
 
Location: Oak Park, IL
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How car-centric is your city? Public transit ranked

They are talking about a rail system as well. Austin, as with the rest of Texas cities, loves our vehicles. It is however not a necessity depending on where you work, and live. If you live downtown you most likely wouldnt need a car. But for me I cant imagine not wanting/needing a car in Austin, Chicago or wherever. I never used public transportation in Chicago. But Austin is in the process of improving its public transportation...and it needs to do it fast because thousands move here weekly and the roads are already packed!
If I were in my early twenties living in Chicago, I'd strongly consider going car-free. The financial incentives are simply too compelling to ignore. Also, the presence of bike-sharing (Divvy bikes), car-sharing (I-go and zip car), and smartphone apps which tell you when the next train or bus will arrive make car-free living a lot more convenient than 20 years ago.
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