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Geographically, no doubt about it. Oklahoma is definitely in the south. The culture is mainly mid western though with a some southern thrown in for good measure.
Geographically, no doubt about it. Oklahoma is definitely in the south. The culture is mainly mid western though with a some southern thrown in for good measure.
Historically, even. It was Confederate even if it wasn't technically part of the the nation. Culture wise, how is it Midwestern?
The influence from the Great Plains (some debate whether or not the GP states are actually Midwestern). Dallas shares that influence as well.
This pretty much is what I was going to say. Really, it depends on what part of the state you're in. Western OK is Great Plains territory and has little in common with the south, while central and eastern OK have more culturally in common with the south.
Historically, even. It was Confederate even if it wasn't technically part of the the nation.
This is one of the biggest fallacies concerning Oklahoma. While it is technically true that all the tribes signed agreements with the confederacy, only the Choctaws and the Chickasaws were solidly confederate. The other tribes were split. There was more civilian loss of life in the Indian territory per capita than in any other state due to the infighting among the tribes. Ultimately, many of the tribe members literally switched sides when it was clear that the Union was going to win the war.
For the most part, the Creeks, Cherokee, and Seminoles were trying to figure out what stance to take based on what would be in their best interest following the war.
This pretty much is what I was going to say. Really, it depends on what part of the state you're in. Western OK is Great Plains territory and has little in common with the south, while central and eastern OK have more culturally in common with the south.
Well I'll have to disagree. But I've never been to OK and have no desire to go. But people I've met from OK have Southern-like accents and Midwesterners tend not to sound like this.
NC and VA have no common bond with the rest of the south during college football season.
True for the most part, but NC and VA teams still play teams like Clemson, Georgia Tech, and Florida State. The majority of the ACC teams are in the south, and ACC teams also play SEC teams in football occasionally. Can a South Carolinian clarify, how big is Clemson compared to USC in the state of South Carolina as a whole? Seems like Clemson is bigger, but maybe I'm wrong. However, in North Carolina around Raleigh, seems like a ton of people pull for Clemson. With the exception of the NC ACC teams, I feel like Clemson is the most popular ACC team in my area of North Carolina. You'll see Virginia and Virginia Tech fans on occasion, but I notice MANY Clemson fans.
True for the most part, but NC and VA teams still play teams like Clemson, Georgia Tech, and Florida State. The majority of the ACC teams are in the south, and ACC teams also play SEC teams in football occasionally. Can a South Carolinian clarify, how big is Clemson compared to USC in the state of South Carolina as a whole? Seems like Clemson is bigger, but maybe I'm wrong. However, in North Carolina around Raleigh, seems like a ton of people pull for Clemson. With the exception of the NC ACC teams, I feel like Clemson is the most popular ACC team in my area of North Carolina. You'll see Virginia and Virginia Tech fans on occasion, but I notice MANY Clemson fans.
Clemson probably has a slightly bigger fan base as it has always served as the agricultural school in a historically agrarian state, while USC was viewed as the "city" school. But the advantage isn't that big and it feels more like a 50/50 split.
Interestingly, USC was a founding member of the ACC and had it stayed, SC would have also been without an SEC team.
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