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I concur with this vote for Iraq. 9 million dollar a month we already spending their , plenty of oil and we could set up all the oil refineries we need.
Hmm, the 51st State of Iraq to provide all the oil the U.S. needs? I'm no expert on oil supply and demand, but it might be a stretch. By 2020 the U.S. will import 80 percent of its oil, so Iraqi supplies might not be enough.
The U.S. already tried but failed to make Venezuela a U.S. state back in 2002, so maybe the question should be about looking for the FIFTY-SECOND state as far as oil goes.
There's been a lot of talk about Iran lately, but the U.S. was there from 1953 - 1979, so that might be more trouble than it's worth. Memories of coup d'etat and revolution still pretty fresh.
What about oil-rich Saudi Arabia? The House of Saud is unpopular with the populous. An overthrow should be a cinch! Make friends with the people instead of the royals. Saudi Arabia, number 52?
Puerto Rico likely I'd say. However, I think the United States doesn't need to get any bigger than it already is. If you ask me, I'm not even sure why we need Alaska or Hawaii, since Alaska should technically be a part of Canada and Hawaii is far away from the lower 48. But 50 is a good number. I don't see why we need to grow any larger than that unless in the unlikely event we have to go to war with China and have no U.N. support.
Puerto Rico likely I'd say. However, I think the United States doesn't need to get any bigger than it already is. If you ask me, I'm not even sure why we need Alaska or Hawaii, since Alaska should technically be a part of Canada and Hawaii is far away from the lower 48. But 50 is a good number. I don't see why we need to grow any larger than that unless in the unlikely event we have to go to war with China and have no U.N. support.
Alaska is useful for oil. I think Canada already has more land than they can handle plus we did buy Alaska from Russia.
Enjoyed most of your post, decafdave. Just want to point out that the U.S. already took northern Mexico -- 55 percent of Mexico's total land.
Quite true! AZ, NM and much of southern CA was "bought" at the point of a gun. Literally. At the treaty of Guadelupe, the signer for Mexico wouldn't sign until we convinced him with a gun to his temple that it was in his "best" interest.
The 52nd state from an oil perspective is not a bad idea! Apparently there are already futures contracts for the current year being written @ $200/barrel. Within a couple years, most commuters will be desperate to live close to the workplace.
All these extraterritorial acquisition ideas are bad. I'm not just talking about Iraq. New Zealanders are often quite anti-American. Leave them alone to stew.
The Brits that want to be Americans are already here or are packing to come.
Nothing says that we can't work more closely with Australia and Japan and Poland. The best allies are not those with the most 'resources,' but those that WANT to be our friends.
I vote to preserve Canada as is, just to show what happens when you screw things up.
Quite true! AZ, NM and much of southern CA was "bought" at the point of a gun. Literally. At the treaty of Guadelupe, the signer for Mexico wouldn't sign until we convinced him with a gun to his temple that it was in his "best" interest.
The 52nd state from an oil perspective is not a bad idea! Apparently there are already futures contracts for the current year being written @ $200/barrel. Within a couple years, most commuters will be desperate to live close to the workplace.
And North America was "bought" at the firing of a gun. And after that, we "stole" 13 perfectly good colonies from the British Empire! Man, with such a horrible history why don't we all just go back to Europe-Asia-Africa etc.
People act like the U.S. is some kind of evil empire but if you compare it to any "empire" throughout history we are by far the nicest. Actually, I don't see how you can call the US an empire in the first place. Not in the conventional sense at least.
And North America was "bought" at the firing of a gun. And after that, we "stole" 13 perfectly good colonies from the British Empire! Man, with such a horrible history why don't we all just go back to Europe-Asia-Africa etc.
People act like the U.S. is some kind of evil empire but if you compare it to any "empire" throughout history we are by far the nicest. Actually, I don't see how you can call the US an empire in the first place. Not in the conventional sense at least.
Would you like to be added onto the mailing list of the New Journal for Imperialist Studies? (You can always use another periodical.)
I'm not convinced that any of our presidential candidates can increase the power of the evil empire. They couldn't even recapture Cleveland if the Canadians invaded.
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Originally Posted by Tim Rankin
Quite true! AZ, NM and much of southern CA was "bought" at the point of a gun. Literally. At the treaty of Guadelupe, the signer for Mexico wouldn't sign until we convinced him with a gun to his temple that it was in his "best" interest.
The 52nd state from an oil perspective is not a bad idea! Apparently there are already futures contracts for the current year being written @ $200/barrel. Within a couple years, most commuters will be desperate to live close to the workplace.
Isn't it also true that when Mexico City fell, President Polk wanted to keep marching south -- to the tip of Cape Horn -- and take the entire continent for the U.S.? Incredible!
Fortunately (or unfortunately depending on one's view) by the time Polk's directives reached Mexico City, the Treaty Guadalupe Hidalgo had already been signed, which stopped Polk's ambitions to "take it ALL from them because we can."
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