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Okay so I'll admit I have a very negative view of Philadelphia vs the rest of the state and my last visit there was in 1999 and got the impression that it was a very rough city.
Let me dig through my Palm Pilot notes from back then and check my own impressions.
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Pennsylvania and Maine have more in common in terms of median household income and educational attainment over a larger geographical area. New Hampshire is different because it has the least amount of poverty of any state in percentage terms, greater educational attainment, and greater median house values.
I was speaking in the context of that which I replied to. Personality. The three states are overall the least "we're so much better than you" of the northeast.
Addendum: Not implying that everybody from the rest of the northeast is that way, just the people in charge/super rich. Hence the second part of my post.
I would group PA in with Maine and New Hampshire as the most "normal" of the northeastern states. Somewhat free of hyper yuppie own-fart-smelling idiot control.
The rest of us, well, all we can do is sit in our forgotten and neglected regions while people like Tom Lennox claim we don't exist.
Pennsylvania and Maine have more in common in terms of median household income and educational attainment over a larger geographical area. New Hampshire is different because it has the least amount of poverty of any state in percentage terms, greater educational attainment, and greater median house values.
Conversely, Pennsylvania is far more populous than either NH or ME and much more akin to New York in its fundamental DNA.
The biggest difference is that Pennsylvania's major metro area (Philly) doesn't quite dominate its state in terms of outside reputation, politics, and demographically (while roughly one-third of Pennsylvanians lives in the Philly area, the percentage of New York State residents living in the NYC metro nearly doubles that rate [64%]).
Pennsylvania is much more "balanced" between urban vs. rural by comparison to the rest of the Northeast, although like the rest of the US, it hasn't been immune to significant economic and political polarization.
But also like New York, Pennsylvania's economic lifeblood, and frankly its future, is increasingly uber-concentrated in its heavily urban southeastern corner, which will make it more and more like New York over time.
I was speaking in the context of that which I replied to. Personality. The three states are overall the least "we're so much better than you" of the northeast.
Addendum: Not implying that everybody from the rest of the northeast is that way, just the people in charge/super rich. Hence the second part of my post.
New Hampshire is also often seen as a conservative island in the Northeast (in particular it has more gun rights than the rest of the region), though its not voted for a Republican president in decades. I do think New Hampshire is probably less conservative than Pennsylvania and its also gotten a lot of Boston transplants making it more liberal.
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New Hampshire is also often seen as a conservative island in the Northeast (in particular it has more gun rights than the rest of the region), though its not voted for a Republican president in decades. I do think New Hampshire is probably less conservative than Pennsylvania and its also gotten a lot of Boston transplants making it more liberal.
You are the forum equivalent of selective hearing, aren't you?
New Hampshire is also often seen as a conservative island in the Northeast (in particular it has more gun rights than the rest of the region), though its not voted for a Republican president in decades. I do think New Hampshire is probably less conservative than Pennsylvania and its also gotten a lot of Boston transplants making it more liberal.
Huh? Vermont, home of Bernie, has by far the strongest gun rights in the region. Anyone can buy a gun. Anyone can concealed carry without a permit. The law is no guns in schools and no guns in state buildings. That’s it. This "guns vs liburuls” thing simply has to stop. Gun law correlates to how urban a state is. Vermont has no cities at all. Thus the very rural-oriented public policy towards guns. Most of the Northeast Corridor is very urban and has gun law appropriate to urban places.
New Hampshire votes for moderates and political party is less important. When that nut job LaMontagne ran with policies straight out of FOX News, he got crushed. If you stray too far to either side of the political spectrum, you won’t win in New Hampshire.
New Hampshire is also often seen as a conservative island in the Northeast (in particular it has more gun rights than the rest of the region), though its not voted for a Republican president in decades. I do think New Hampshire is probably less conservative than Pennsylvania and its also gotten a lot of Boston transplants making it more liberal.
Why are you ignoring the posts from a few pages ago about your Philadelphia ignorance?
You're also showing ignorance about New Hampshire as well (my native state). New Hampshire is probably more Republican than the rest of the Northeast, but that isn't saying much. It is also the Republicans of old (ala Mitt Romney types). New Hampshire is one of the least religious states in the country, and would never tolerate the kind of whack-job right winger Evangelicals that are so common down in your parts. Trump's approval ratings are at -12 in the state, and I guarantee you he'll lose the state in 2020 (same goes for PA). The kind of New Hampshire conservative is far from your kind of conservative. You won't find much opposition to LGBT rights, denial of abortion choice, or opposition to immigrant rights there. The governorship has also been dominated by Democrats in the 21st century.
You know, there is this amazing thing called Google and it makes it really easy to fact-check assertions before hitting the 'Post' button.
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Why are you ignoring the posts from a few pages ago about your Philadelphia ignorance?
You're also showing ignorance about New Hampshire as well (my native state). New Hampshire is probably more Republican than the rest of the Northeast, but that isn't saying much. It is also the Republicans of old (ala Mitt Romney types). New Hampshire is one of the least religious states in the country, and would never tolerate the kind of whack-job right winger Evangelicals that are so common down in your parts. Trump's approval ratings are at -12 in the state, and I guarantee you he'll lose the state in 2020 (same goes for PA). The kind of New Hampshire conservative is far from your kind of conservative. You won't find much opposition to LGBT rights, denial of abortion choice, or opposition to immigrant rights there. The governorship has also been dominated by Democrats in the 21st century.
You know, there is this amazing thing called Google and it makes it really easy to fact-check assertions before hitting the 'Post' button.
I have discovered he doesn't listen, he only talks.
He only hears you if you agree with something he says, or you praise a southern state. I get a very... "over 50" vibe off of him. Not sure how old he is of course, but that's the feeling I get. That "I'm too old to ever be wrong about anything" personality a lot of boomers and spoiled older Gen-X have.
Huh? Vermont, home of Bernie, has by far the strongest gun rights in the region. Anyone can buy a gun. Anyone can concealed carry without a permit. The law is no guns in schools and no guns in state buildings. That’s it. This "guns vs liburuls” thing simply has to stop. Gun law correlates to how urban a state is. Vermont has no cities at all. Thus the very rural-oriented public policy towards guns. Most of the Northeast Corridor is very urban and has gun law appropriate to urban places.
New Hampshire votes for moderates and political party is less important. When that nut job LaMontagne ran with policies straight out of FOX News, he got crushed. If you stray too far to either side of the political spectrum, you won’t win in New Hampshire.
New Hampshire has the more pro-gun governor of the two, he vetoed all gun control bills if I'm not mistaken.
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