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Old 01-01-2019, 06:47 PM
 
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Phoenix, Albuquerque, El Paso, and Santa Fe are southwestern. Dallas is not. Not even close.
I came up with my list with the perspective of a foreigner who's never been in the US in mind. So I intentionally picked cities big/influential that people internationally are somewhat familiar with them.

While those cities may be more quintessentially southwestern, they're not as prominent as Dallas (which is the only 1 of 2 major cities that comes closest to having ties with the cattle ranching culture in that region)

I thought about selecting Phoenix since it's pretty big population-wise, but from a socio-economic standpoint, it's still a level below Dallas.

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Old 01-01-2019, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Phoenix, Albuquerque, El Paso, and Santa Fe are southwestern. Dallas is not. Not even close.
Agreed.
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Old 01-01-2019, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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I came up with my list with the perspective of a foreigner who's never been in the US in mind. So I intentionally picked cities big/influential that people internationally are somewhat familiar with them that

While those cities may be more quintessentially southwestern, they're not as prominent as Dallas (which is the only 1 of 2 major cities that comes closest to having ties with the cattle ranching culture in that region)

I thought about selecting Phoenix since it's pretty big population-wise, but from a socio-economic standpoint, it's still a level below Dallas.
Dallas is southern. You've got Atlanta on your list. No, they're not exactly the same, but they're not all that different, either.
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Old 01-01-2019, 07:40 PM
 
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Dallas is southern. You've got Atlanta on your list. No, they're not exactly the same, but they're not all that different, either.
We'll agree to disagree.

I stand by the list I posted and my explanation behind it.
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Old 01-01-2019, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Aurora, CO
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We'll agree to disagree.

I stand by the list I posted and my explanation behind it.
You can stand by it all you want, but your assertion that Dallas has a "southwestern lifestyle and culture" (your words) is absolutely and unequivocally wrong. Have you ever been to Dallas and ANY of the cities I mentioned? My guess is no because if you had you'd immediately realize how far off you are.
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Old 01-01-2019, 08:31 PM
 
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#1 Washington D.C of course,it's the nation's capital
#2 New York City of course
#3 Los Angeles of course
#4 Chicago
#5 San Francisco

[ And the South as a whole is worth visiting as well ]
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Old 01-01-2019, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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If we could name 10 cities, or maybe even 8, I'd go for Boston and NYC. Since we can only do 5, take out one of them. Ditto Miami/New Orleans. Add a mountain states city-Boise, Salt Lake, Denver.
NYC doesn't have the historical displays that Boston or Philly has.

New Orleans doesn't have the Latino influence that Miami has and Miami is not southern in character or accent.

I think a city like Boise is well represented by LA or SF.
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Old 01-01-2019, 10:27 PM
 
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NYC doesn't have the historical displays that Boston or Philly has.

New Orleans doesn't have the Latino influence that Miami has and Miami is not southern in character or accent.

I think a city like Boise is well represented by LA or SF.
So take NYC out.

I would guess you've been to none of them.
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Old 01-02-2019, 06:50 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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I came up with my list with the perspective of a foreigner who's never been in the US in mind. So I intentionally picked cities big/influential that people internationally are somewhat familiar with them.

While those cities may be more quintessentially southwestern, they're not as prominent as Dallas (which is the only 1 of 2 major cities that comes closest to having ties with the cattle ranching culture in that region)

I thought about selecting Phoenix since it's pretty big population-wise, but from a socio-economic standpoint, it's still a level below Dallas.
If you're going to say "Dallas" because of the area's ties with cattle ranching, at least say Fort Worth. Which is a really cool city.
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Old 01-02-2019, 06:59 AM
 
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Atlanta does not represent the US at all, lived here for a while and even went to high school here. High gay and feminist population, high black population (only 13% of America is black), a lot of strictly religious folks in the suburbs and a lot of suburbs meant for each immigrant group.

I'd say the best cities that represent the US are midwestern cities because they represent a lot of people from flyover country.
All of those groups in Atlanta have had substantial impacts on the cultural and physical landscape of America, particularly within the context of the American South. I'm not saying that Atlanta has to be included in the five cities, but that's certainly enough reason to include it. Furthermore, major cities will generally have higher populations of minority groups compared to the nation as a whole; that's not unique to Atlanta.

Selecting five cities from the same region of the country wouldn't be representative of America as a whole at all.

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