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Will say it's not San Antonio either. It has Seaworld, Fiesta Texas, a very distinct skyline, and a Hispanic culture. Dallas and Houston to me, while more prosperous, tend to be looked upon as generic sun belt cities.
As a non-Texan, to me it does seem as though San Antonio is overshadowed, not only by Houston and Dallas which get more coverage due to their sheer size and importance, but also by Austin due to the tech economy and its status as a top "cool city." San Antonio may be more distinct than either but outside of sports, it seems that it's only mentioned in connection with the military presence or the Alamo. Unfortunately, I think a big reason its overlooked is due to demographics. It's growing quite fast like the other Texas metros but isn't really popular with college grads and career professionals, and that's due to it not having a particularly dynamic local economy. It's not really a destination for corporate HQ relocations and it's not known for innovation. It seems that, to one degree or another (with the possible exception of San Diego), this is something that cities with a big military presence struggle with.
nobody wants to jump in and argue about Worcester MA vs Springfield MA.
You need to be of a certain size for anyone to know anything about a city. What people might know about Worcester might be Holy Cross and Springfield the Basketball HOF but that’s about it.
You would not get an informed discussion on a national forum.
Also Columbus is debatably not the #3 metro in Ohio.
For all intents and purposes, Ohio's 3-C's are interchangeable. If anything, Columbus is getting more attention than Cleveland or Cincinnati lately.
1. Cleveland
2. Cincinnati
3. Columbus
You can't do the comparison based on city proper population unless you also want to say that Columbus outranks Boston, MA. You could make an argument that Columbus > Cleveland based on MSA but that's really not fair since Akron, 35 miles from Cleveland via 10 lanes of highway, is really part of Cleveland's metro area (CSA) just like Dallas and Ft. Worth. Any other metric and Cleveland easily wins the #1 spot here.
So in the case of Ohio, yes Columbus is the overlooked third. I heard they're growing though.
They're in the same metro area. I didn't ask about specific cities but metro areas.
They used to be in a single MSA but since 2003 (I believe) the MSA became a CSA and Winston-Salem and Greensboro/High Point became separate MSAs. Greensboro is the third largest MSA in the state and Winston-Salem is fourth.
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1. Cleveland
2. Cincinnati
3. Columbus
You can't do the comparison based on city proper population unless you also want to say that Columbus outranks Boston, MA. You could make an argument that Columbus > Cleveland based on MSA but that's really not fair since Akron, 35 miles from Cleveland via 10 lanes of highway, is really part of Cleveland's metro area (CSA) just like Dallas and Ft. Worth. Any other metric and Cleveland easily wins the #1 spot here.
So in the case of Ohio, yes Columbus is the overlooked third. I heard they're growing though.
According to the latest estimates, Columbus is the second-largest metro and Cleveland is third. Whatever the order, I think the three-Cs are generally recognized as being peers of each other these days with none truly being overshadowed. Even if Columbus was third-largest, it certainly wouldn't be overshadowed as it is often touted as one of the more growing and thriving cities of the Midwest today in contrast to its Rustbelt counterparts.
I couldn't tell you a single thing about Greensboro or Winston-Salem - I think that area's gotta be pretty overshadowed.
It is. It doesn't have all the cultural amenities and business opportunities that Charlotte and the Triangle have and it's not on the coast like Wilmington or in the Mountains like Asheville.
That said, it does pretty well for itself and is a moderately growing area.
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