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SF Gate (website of SF Chronicle) says in that time, SF will have the climate that LA does now (and that LA will be a lot like Vegas today). Coincidence: they just added that tidbit a few days ago
If climate change is real and it’s more than a short climate blip it will produce winners and losers as all climate events do. The mid evil warm period for example allowed Greenland to be settled by Vikings. The little ice age ended that. Here in Notth America parts of Canada and Alaska that are too harsh for large populations today will likely become more usable.
Here in Tennessee the map suggests we will have a climate similar to the Gulf Coast. Not a huge change, one state to our south the weather is not that different. I can see how upper Midwest states like Minnesota, Wisconsin and Michigan could have their realities altered far more significantly than some places. If you think about it though those places are not as far north as you think, only 45 degrees north. That is similar to the latitude in Southern Europe. The upper Midwest is far colder today than most places at a similar latitude. What that map is suggesting is that climate change will make their weather more normal for locales at the 45th parallel.
Have to butt in here: virtually everyone acknowledges it's happening, but some people still believe the denialism misinformation campaign by the Western Fuels Association (ironically, many major oil companies now clearly acknowledge climate change, but their campaign ran away from them) and think that climate change is not man-made. Climate change IS happening, you can clearly see it, and the vast majority of experts argue it's man made.
This post may get deleted, but it's somewhat relevant to the topic at hand, and I'm sick of misinformation. I'm in my 20s and am going to have to live with this changing climate that breaks records year after year. It affects the future of mankind. I can't sit back on it.
Minneapolis in 2080 will climatologically feel like Lansing, Kansas, which means significantly warmer winters with little to no snow.
This is worrisome because it's going to radically change the nature of the ecosystem here. A lot of Minnesota's beautiful North Woods flora and fauna will be too stressed to survive, and invading species from the south will wreak havoc in native landscapes.
A lot of people seem to be of the impression that climate change could be "beneficial" for colder climates, but it's actually going to be devastating.
Have to butt in here: virtually everyone acknowledges it's happening, but some people still believe the denialism misinformation campaign by the Western Fuels Association (ironically, many major oil companies now clearly acknowledge climate change, but their campaign ran away from them) and think that climate change is not man-made. Climate change IS happening, you can clearly see it, and the vast majority of experts argue it's man made.
This post may get deleted, but it's somewhat relevant to the topic at hand, and I'm sick of misinformation. I'm in my 20s and am going to have to live with this changing climate that breaks records year after year. It affects the future of mankind. I can't sit back on it.
AOC is that you?
Human caused climate change is neither proven nor disproven, what it really is tends to be a political issue. Both sides fund “studies” to win votes. Natural shifts in climate however are quite real and provable events and evidence suggests that for some reason we are going into a warm period. What is unknown is how long it lasts, 10 years? 100 years or 5000 years? No one has proven a cause of it nor have they really proved how long it will last. As I stated before the mid evil warm period and the little ice age are two temporary climate shifts that deeply impacted the history of the last 2000 years. This is all part of the historical record and backed up by science.
Human caused climate change is neither proven nor disproven, what it really is tends to be a political issue. Both sides fund “studies” to win votes. Natural shifts in climate however are quite real and provable events and evidence suggests that for some reason we are going into a warm period. What is unknown is how long it lasts, 10 years? 100 years or 5000 years? No one has proven a cause of it nor have they really proved how long it will last. As I stated before the mid evil warm period and the little ice age are two temporary climate shifts that deeply impacted the history of the last 2000 years. This is all part of the historical record and backed up by science.
>95% probability that human activity over the past 50 years have warmed the planet, as per 1,300 independent climate scientists from across the globe.
Since 1950, CO2 levels have spiked from 320 ppm to 400 ppm. In the past 500,000 years, CO2 levels have not reached above 300 ppm, until the past 150 years (industrial revolution).
CO2 and other gases in the atmosphere (such as methane, N2O) exacerbate the Greenhouse Effect by trapping heat in the lower atmosphere, causing a warming effect.
Simple as. We've been predicting this since 1896 (Svante Arrhenius's paper).
Gravity hasn't been proven either, by the way. Only heavily agreed upon and shown to work with what's in reality (just like the aforementioned info I provided).
If it makes you feel any better, my hopes are largely dashed on this issue. I honestly do not believe mankind is capable of the collective foresight and cooperation needed to tackle a crisis of this magnitude, and will fall prey to the Tragedy of the Commons. We should have started acting decades ago. Mankind will learn the hard way that pumping out grotesque amounts of greenhouse gases will, surprise surprise, worsen the greenhouse effect.
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If climate change is real and it’s more than a short climate blip it will produce winners and losers as all climate events do. The mid evil warm period for example allowed Greenland to be settled by Vikings. The little ice age ended that. Here in Notth America parts of Canada and Alaska that are too harsh for large populations today will likely become more usable.
Here in Tennessee the map suggests we will have a climate similar to the Gulf Coast. Not a huge change, one state to our south the weather is not that different. I can see how upper Midwest states like Minnesota, Wisconsin and Michigan could have their realities altered far more significantly than some places. If you think about it though those places are not as far north as you think, only 45 degrees north. That is similar to the latitude in Southern Europe. The upper Midwest is far colder today than most places at a similar latitude. What that map is suggesting is that climate change will make their weather more normal for locales at the 45th parallel.
I'm going to ignore the climate debate in this post and just address the incorrect latitude information. Latitude is but one factor in climate. The Upper Midwest will never be similar to Southern Europe unless there are some significant geographical changes, weather pattern changes, atmospheric changes, ocean currant changes, etc. etc. If those things happen, Southern Europe would be completely different as well.
I found this before and had difficulty believing it. So, somehow, Dallas becomes like southern Louisiana while Denton and McKinney become like arid portions of Mexico.
THIS!
Two cities 40 miles apart will not have two completely different climates. There are no mountains to disrupt the air follow like in southern California.
I'm going to ignore the climate debate in this post and just address the incorrect latitude information. Latitude is but one factor in climate. The Upper Midwest will never be similar to Southern Europe unless there are some significant geographical changes, weather pattern changes, atmospheric changes, ocean currant changes, etc. etc. If those things happen, Southern Europe would be completely different as well.
I was not suggesting Wisconsin and Michigan will ever have a climate similar to the French Riviara. What I am saying is that the Upper Midwest is not nearly as far north as its residents believe it is. The region is centered on the 45tg parallel, only halfway to the pole. Most places at this latitude are warmer than the Upper Midwest, there is no reason for the place to remain that cold indefinitely. Climate changes naturally, always has and it always will.
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