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Old 08-30-2019, 09:41 AM
 
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Not necessarily, as some states are smaller than others. Just to put this into perspective, NY and MS are about the same in land size, but as mentioned MS and Brooklyn have similar demographics.

I know what you are getting at, but if you are holding on to what you are saying, then what does that say about TN, TX, FL, AR and maybe a couple of other states in the South?

Another thing that is interesting is that if you look at the blackest municipality or CDP in any state, I believe that only NY(and perhaps CT) are the states where its blackest place is solidly middle class(Lakeview on Long Island is 74.6% black and its median household income is $115,750 according to 2013-2017 census information).
California also fits in this regard as well, as View Park-Windsor Hills is 80.6% and has a median household income of $88,013.
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Old 08-30-2019, 12:42 PM
 
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Not necessarily, as some states are smaller than others. Just to put this into perspective, NY and MS are about the same in land size, but as mentioned MS and Brooklyn have similar demographics.

I know what you are getting at, but if you are holding on to what you are saying, then what does that say about TN, TX, FL, AR and maybe a couple of other states in the South?

Another thing that is interesting is that if you look at the blackest municipality or CDP in any state, I believe that only NY(and perhaps CT) are the states where its blackest place is solidly middle class(Lakeview on Long Island is 74.6% black and its median household income is $115,750 according to 2013-2017 census information).




Based on the 2010 census I think Maryland may qualify as well. I don't think Baltimore city has areas that are considered municipalities or CDP in the city other than the city itself but Prince George's County shows several municipalities or CDP's 80-90% AA that aren't low income.


Kettering, MD 91% AA, median family income $84, 846. Of course Kettering also neighbors:


Mitchellville, MD 82.9% AA, median family income $120,393
Largo, MD 87.4% AA, median family income $86, 204.


Interesting since the 2000 census the blackest areas such as Landover, Hillcrest heights which used to be around 93% AA are respectively around 77, 89% respectively.
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Old 08-30-2019, 03:04 PM
 
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Based on the 2010 census I think Maryland may qualify as well. I don't think Baltimore city has areas that are considered municipalities or CDP in the city other than the city itself but Prince George's County shows several municipalities or CDP's 80-90% AA that aren't low income.


Kettering, MD 91% AA, median family income $84, 846. Of course Kettering also neighbors:


Mitchellville, MD 82.9% AA, median family income $120,393
Largo, MD 87.4% AA, median family income $86, 204.


Interesting since the 2000 census the blackest areas such as Landover, Hillcrest heights which used to be around 93% AA are respectively around 77, 89% respectively.
Yeah, I think those places are close in terms of highest percentage. This list, while a bit old, shows that many of the top 9 ranked places are relatively working/lower middle class: Maryland Black Population Percentage City Rank Based on ACS 2010-2014 data

Same with Yeadon PA: Pennsylvania Black Population Percentage City Rank Based on ACS 2010-2014 data
https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fa...a,US/PST045218
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Old 08-31-2019, 09:08 AM
 
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I mean most people tend to go by raw numbers.

Hence why LA is the black capital of the west and Las Vegas or Denver...

Milwaukee is blacker than Chicago and has a lot of black people but the influence is non existent.

I personally use a mix of raw numbers percentage and influence.

I'm biased in favor of MA over CT because thats where im from but I can see the argument the other way absolutely. But nowhere in Ct has the influence that Boston has had however muted it may be. The closest is New Haven. You could call New Haven the Capital of Black New England or you could cite Roxbury.

Brockton is the blackest city in new England percentage wise but I wouldn't call it the capital. Bloomfield is the blackest town but it still doesn't overshadow a ton of other communities.

Calling CT the capital when they havent had a black governor like MA or a popular musical act(s) and MA has seems a little odd. Also there is a substantial portion of the CT black community that doesnt want to associate with New England and would rather be called part of the 'Tri-State'. Hard to call them black new England if half or more of them dont even want to be New England.

In addition to this MA better represent the diversity of black New England than the more more African American/Jamaican CT (not to say CT doesnt have many Cape Verdean, Haitians, Guyanese, and Dominicans because they are noticeable).
Huh?

Most people do not go by raw numbers. NY has a larger Black population than all of the states—including MS, GA, MD, etc.—California has a larger Black population that most states...

Yet, no one would say Cali and New York are “Blacker” or more Black-oriented than the other states I mentioned above.


Face it, BBMM...Mass is just a very white and white cultural state. And everybody knows.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...on?wprov=sfti1
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Old 08-31-2019, 03:03 PM
 
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Huh?

Most people do not go by raw numbers. NY has a larger Black population than all of the states—including MS, GA, MD, etc.—California has a larger Black population that most states...

Yet, no one would say Cali and New York are “Blacker” or more Black-oriented than the other states I mentioned above.


Face it, BBMM...Mass is just a very white and white cultural state. And everybody knows.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...on?wprov=sfti1
I think NY is different than CA in this regard. Again, while NY isn't as "black" as MS, GA or MD, it is still on par with or blacker than states like FL, TN, AR, TX and even to close VA in terms of percentage. Those are states where many may think that they have a higher black percentage than NY, but they don't or if they do, it isn't that much higher. So, it has raw numbers and a relatively high percentage. https://blackdemographics.com/popula...te-population/

Of course, it also depends on who you count include as well. Even when looking at various lists, NY is pretty high on the list.

In terms of MA, I think it may surprise some people that have never been there before, as you actually do see black(and/or Hispanic) people in various parts of the state. Of course, it isn't like the other states mentioned here, but the population is more visible than expected and growing.

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Old 08-31-2019, 04:29 PM
 
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I think NY is different than CA in this regard. Again, while NY isn't as "black" as MS, GA or MD, it is still on par with or blacker than states like FL, TN, AR, TX and even to close VA in terms of percentage. Those are states where many may think that they have a higher black percentage than NY, but they don't or if they do, it isn't that much higher. So, it has raw numbers and a relatively high percentage. https://blackdemographics.com/popula...te-population/

Of course, it also depends on who you count include as well. Even when looking at various lists, NY is pretty high on the list.

In terms of MA, I think it may surprise some people that have never been there before, as you actually do see black(and/or Hispanic) people in various parts of the state. Of course, it isn't like the other states mentioned here, but the population is more visible than expected and growing.
California is more known for having Hispanics and Asians even in the rural areas of the state. MA black population is pretty high for New England standards but definitely not up there with States below NY. I think it's higher percentage wise than CA.
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Old 09-01-2019, 07:34 AM
 
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Black Percentage by state, 2017

Mississippi 37.9%
Louisiana 32.2%
Georgia 31.1%

Maryland 29.4%
South Carolina 26.8%
Alabama 26.7%
Delaware 21.5%
North Carolina 21.2%

Virginia 18.8%
Tennessee 16.6%
Florida 15.4%
Arkansas 15.2%

New York 14.3%
Illinois 14%
Michigan 13.6%
New Jersey 12.8%
National Average 12.3%
Ohio 12.2%
Texas 11.8%
Missouri 11.4%
Pennsylvania 10.7%

Connecticut 9.9%
Indiana 9.2%
Nevada 8.9%
Kentucky 8%
Oklahoma 7.2%
Massachusetts 7%
Minnesota 6.4%
Wisconsin 6.3%
California 5.5%
Kansas 5.5%
Rhode Island 5.4%

Nebraska 4.5%
Arizona 4.1%
Colorado 3.9%
West Virginia 3.9%
Washington 3.5%
Iowa 3.3%
North Dakota 3%
Alaska 2.9%

South Dakota 1.9%
Oregon 1.8%
New Mexico 1.8%
Hawaii 1.6%
New Hampshire 1.3%
Utah 1.2%
Maine 1.2%
Vermont 1.2%

Wyoming 0.9%
Idaho 0.6%
Montana 0.4%

•Only 16 of the 50 states have a black percentage above national average. Approximately 65.3% of Black Americans live in these 16 states (pop 26,222,476)...

•there is a contiguous black belt that spans the entire Southeast minus Kentucky and West Virginia, and snakes up the eastern seaboard to include New Jersey and New York...

•more states are in the 5-10% range than any other category...

•the states right in the middle, percentage-wise, are Oklahoma and Massachusetts, at 7.2% and 7%. In a certain perspective, these states can be seen as having "average" black population...

Source: http://censusreporter.org/profiles/0...united-states/
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Old 09-01-2019, 07:41 AM
 
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Regarding recent commentary about black capitals by region, Boston and Massachusetts are the black centers of New England. Boston isn't the blackest city in NE, but as tends to be the case, major cities account for an overwhelming majority of cultural output...

Mass also isn't the blackest state in NE, but it's the state with the largest cultural output in NE...

As mentioned, neither Los Angeles nor California are the blackest cities or states on the West, but they are by far the black capitals of the entire US west of Texas. And I'd say there was a time, just 20+ years ago, when LA and Cali were more of a black influencer than Texas...
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Old 09-01-2019, 11:33 AM
 
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Black Population, Raw Volume

Texas 3,330,204
Georgia 3,245,371
Florida 3,224,452

New York 2,846,481
North Carolina 2,175,617
California 2,164,239

Illinois 1,790,512
Maryland 1,776,692
Virginia 1,595,039
Louisiana 1,505,991
Ohio 1,421,030
Pennsylvania 1,367,815
Michigan 1,359,264
South Carolina 1,344,741
Alabama 1,302,295
New Jersey 1,148,321
Mississippi 1,130,323
Tennessee 1,115,187

Missouri 694,270
Indiana 613,080

Massachusetts 477,846
Arkansas 455,500
Wisconsin 362,314
Minnesota 356,949
Kentucky 355,829
Connecticut 354,320
Arizona 290,379
Oklahoma 283,068
Nevada 265,472
Washington 262,211

Colorado 219,500
Delaware 206,690
Kansas 161,148
Iowa 103,989

Nebraska 87,147
Oregon 74,345
West Virginia 71,358
Rhode Island 57,196
New Mexico 38,022
Utah 35,689

North Dakota 22,830
Hawaii 22,629
Alaska 21,192
New Hampshire 18,023
South Dakota 16,345
Maine 15,761
Vermont 7,731
Wyoming 5,154
Montana 4,380
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Largest growth 2010-2017 by state (%)

North Dakota +186.81%

South Dakota +60.14%

Minnesota +30.08%

Vermont +23.16%
Utah +21.86%
Nevada +21.43%

New Hampshire +19.87%
Iowa +16.65%

West Virginia +13.04%
Arizona +12.11%
Texas +11.77%
Georgia +10%
Massachusetts +10%

Washington +9.24%
Colorado +8.81%
Montana +8.77%
Wyoming +8.55%
Delaware +7.76%
Oregon +7.43%
Florida +6.96%
North Carolina +6.2%
Hawaii +5.62%
Tennessee +5.47%
Kentucky +5.42%
Nebraska +5.14%

Maryland +4.49%
South Carolina +4.19%
Alabama +4.07%
Louisiana +3.69%
Indiana +3.67%
Mississippi +2.91%
Virginia +2.81%
Oklahoma +1.95%
Arkansas +1.25%

Ohio +0.95%
Wisconsin +0.88%
Maine +0.34%
Missouri +0.13%

Pennsylvania -0.72%
Connecticut -2.2%

Michigan -2.93%
Kansas -4%
Illinois -4.07%
New Jersey -4.69%
Rhode Island -4.97%

California -5.86%
New York -7.4%
Alaska -8.9%

New Mexico -10.64%

Largest growth 2010-2017 (population)

Texas +350,606
Georgia +294,936

Florida +224,890
North Carolina +126,989

Minnesota +82,537
Maryland +76,394
Tennessee +57,872
South Carolina +54,057
Louisiana +53,595
Alabama +50,984

Nevada +46,846
Virginia +43,640
Massachusetts +43,448
Mississippi +31,938
Arizona +31,371

Washington +22,169
Indiana +21,683
Kentucky +18,309
Colorado +17,763
Iowa +14,841
Delaware +14,876
North Dakota +14,870
Ohio +13,349

West Virginia +8,234
Utah +6,402
South Dakota +6,138
Arkansas +5,605
Oklahoma +5,424
Oregon +5,139
Nebraska +4,262
Wisconsin +3,166
New Hampshire +2,988
Vermont +1,454
Hawaii +1,205
Missouri +879
Wyoming +406
Montana +353
Maine +54

Alaska -2,071
Rhode Island -2,993
New Mexico -4,528
Kansas -6,716
Connecticut -7,976
Pennsylvania -9,874

Michigan -41,098

New Jersey -56,505
Illinois -75,902

California -134,833
New York -227,319
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