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Old 12-30-2019, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Green Country
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California, Florida, and Texas still did quite well on international immigration.
Immigration was +595,348, which is historically a horrific number.

Natural increase is now +956,674, the first sub-1 million figure in many, many, many decades.

We're a decade away from absolute population decline if we don't do something.
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Old 12-30-2019, 09:30 AM
 
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States that lost people:
Alaska -3,594
Connecticut -6,233
Hawaii -4,721
Illinois -51,250
Louisiana -10,896
Mississippi -4,871
New Jersey -3,835
New York -76,790
Vermont -369
West Virginia -12,144
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Old 12-30-2019, 09:33 AM
 
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States that lost people:
Alaska -3,594
Connecticut -6,233
Hawaii -4,721
Illinois -51,250
Louisiana -10,896
Mississippi -4,871
New Jersey -3,835
New York -76,790
Vermont -369
West Virginia -12,144
Illinois is down 159,000 on the decade.
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Old 12-30-2019, 09:35 AM
 
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Massachusetts only +10,000.

Yeah, but if you look at the inward migration demographics vs the outward migration demographics, it's a lot of white collar professionals coming in (plus Puerto Rican flight). The people leaving are lower income who are priced out of the housing market and retiring Boomers.
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Old 12-30-2019, 09:41 AM
 
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Yeah, but if you look at the inward migration demographics vs the outward migration demographics, it's a lot of white collar professionals coming in (plus Puerto Rican flight). The people leaving are lower income who are priced out of the housing market and retiring Boomers.
Still quite the slowing growth rate.

Missy I assume due to lower immigration rates
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Old 12-30-2019, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Immigration was +595,348, which is historically a horrific number.

Natural increase is now +956,674, the first sub-1 million figure in many, many, many decades.

We're a decade away from absolute population decline if we don't do something.
But its not nationwide. Some areas seem to be growing at the expense of others and that includes international immigration
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Old 12-30-2019, 09:42 AM
 
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Some interesting stats:

1. Of the nation's +1,552,022, +934,089 came from just 5 states: AZ, FL, GA, NC, TX (60%)
2. A majority of growth occurred in just AZ, FL, GA, TX
3. The 25 slowest-growing states combined declined by -103,791.
4. The 33 slowest-growing states combined grew by +581

There are two tiers of states.

17 states are healthy, and grew by +1,547,239 (99.7%). The other 33 grew collectively by +581.

The 17 states:
Arizona
California
Colorado
Florida
Georgia
Idaho
Indiana
Minnesota
Nevada
North Carolina
Oregon
South Carolina
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
Virginia
Washington

The others are in various stages of demographic decay/decline, either because of affordability (NY, NJ), White natural decline (New England, Appalachia) or losing people to other states (Deep South, Interior West).
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Old 12-30-2019, 09:50 AM
 
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But its not nationwide. Some areas seem to be growing at the expense of others and that includes international immigration
Everywhere had big declines in immigration, even Texas and Florida.

The only difference in FL, TX is they were so high ten years ago that they have buffer to decline.

Texas gained +65,000 from international immigration from 2018-2019. In 2001, that was +127,000. -72,000 in growth in Texas alone from lower immigration. As recent as 2015, Texas gained +121,000 from intl immigration.

We haven't seen +65,000 growth since the 1980s.

Florida is +88,000 international immigration. It was +176,000 last year. Florida went from growing by +406,000 in 2016 to +222,000 in 2019. Growth has halved in 3 years.

66% of states are in demographic decline and the shining hills (FL, GA, TX, NC, AZ) all have rapidly diminishing growth.

This is a disaster. And a self-inflicted one at that.
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Old 12-30-2019, 09:54 AM
 
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Everywhere had big declines in immigration, even Texas and Florida.

The only difference in FL, TX is they were so high ten years ago that they have buffer to decline.

Texas gained +65,000 from international immigration from 2018-2019. In 2001, that was +127,000. -72,000 in growth in Texas alone from lower immigration. As recent as 2015, Texas gained +121,000 from intl immigration.

We haven't seen +65,000 growth since the 1980s.

Florida is +88,000 international immigration. It was +176,000 last year. Florida went from growing by +406,000 in 2016 to +222,000 in 2019. Growth has halved in 3 years.

66% of states are in demographic decline and the shining hills (FL, GA, TX, NC, AZ) all have rapidly diminishing growth.

This is a disaster. And a self-inflicted one at that.
A huge part of this is Mexican immigration. Mexican immigration is wayyyy down.

Foreign Born Mexican Growth:
Riverside: 20,344
Detroit: 13,414
Phoenix: 12,552
Las Vegas: 7,912
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 3,648
Boston: 1,538
McAllen: 890
Seattle/Tacoma: 455
Philadelphia: -1,904
Austin: -2,180
Orlando: -6,833
Denver: -6,836
San Antonio: -6,931
Dallas/Fort Worth: -8,982
Washington DC: -11,836
San Jose: -20,583
Houston: -22,251
Atlanta: -28,952
New York: -29,252
San Francisco: -33,271
Chicago: -51,200
Los Angeles: -132,900

What about California?
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Old 12-30-2019, 09:58 AM
 
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This is a disaster. And a self-inflicted one at that.

Why is this a disaster? Isn't ~330 million people enough? The disaster is the lack of 21st century job skills among the bottom 50%. The smart/educated/motivated ones move to the high cost of living regions with the economic opportunities. The disaster is the states and counties where most of those people have fled.
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