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Old 11-20-2020, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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So whats the difference between an Inland South and Lowland South dialect?
I’m not someone who studies dialects, it just that of the few dialect maps I’ve seen put San Antonio in the South, or at best straddling the Southwest border. But even with that theirs a caveat, it can be argued that the Southwest doesn’t have its own unique accent as a whole and is an amalgamation of other accents, that haven’t fully merged since it’s so newly settled. I just made an appeal to Authority argument. But someone explains the distinction here. https://pointpark.libguides.com/c.php?g=18088&p=101605
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Old 11-20-2020, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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I’m not someone who studies dialects, it just that of the few dialect maps I’ve seen put San Antonio in the South, or at best straddling the Southwest border. But even with that theirs a caveat, it can be argued that the Southwest doesn’t have its own unique accent as a whole and is an amalgamation of other accents, that haven’t fully merged since it’s so newly settled. I just made an appeal to Authority argument. But someone explains the distinction here. https://pointpark.libguides.com/c.php?g=18088&p=101605
I ask because according to that, Dallas has one accent while Houston, San Antonio, Austin, and Atlanta have another. Whats the difference?
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Old 11-20-2020, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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I ask because according to that, Dallas has one accent while Houston, San Antonio, Austin, and Atlanta have another. Whats the difference?
If you go to the hoods Houston then Dallas and San Antonio, you’ll notice it. Houston and Dallads are more similar in my opinion. If you go to a booming suburb or inner city neighborhood, the accents tend to die down.
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Old 11-20-2020, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Calera, AL
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San Antonio is geographically Southern, as is New Orleans, Miami, Louisville, and a host of other cities that don't fit the stereotypical "Southern" mold.


Places like Greenwood Mississippi and Demopolis Alabama are "classic" Southern, but that doesn't make them "more" Southern than other places, just different.
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Old 11-20-2020, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Wonderland
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Well, this southerner loves her some San Antonio. Great city.
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Old 11-20-2020, 09:51 PM
 
Location: C.R. K-T
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I’m not someone who studies dialects, it just that of the few dialect maps I’ve seen put San Antonio in the South, or at best straddling the Southwest border. But even with that theirs a caveat, it can be argued that the Southwest doesn’t have its own unique accent as a whole and is an amalgamation of other accents, that haven’t fully merged since it’s so newly settled. I just made an appeal to Authority argument. But someone explains the distinction here. https://pointpark.libguides.com/c.php?g=18088&p=101605
San Antonio is only up the highway from Monterrey, NL. Basically anything south of the Nueces River (which is about 50 miles from San Antonio on I-35) is the South Texas border region. S.A. is the anchor of the region, and the largest city and metro in this part of Texas.

Obviously due to geographic proximity, the major cities of Laredo, Corpus Christi, and the Rio Grande Valley (Brownsville-Harlingen-Del Rio) have better ties with the neighboring Mexican states than with the rest of Texas.
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Old 11-21-2020, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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I consider San Antonio in a transition zone between the south and the southwest. In Texas, I consider everything from I-45/US 75 eastward as part of the south, then between I-45/US 75 and US 83 I consider the transition zone, and then west of US 83 is part of the southwest
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Old 11-22-2020, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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San Antonio is only up the highway from Monterrey, NL. Basically anything south of the Nueces River (which is about 50 miles from San Antonio on I-35) is the South Texas border region. S.A. is the anchor of the region, and the largest city and metro in this part of Texas.

Obviously due to geographic proximity, the major cities of Laredo, Corpus Christi, and the Rio Grande Valley (Brownsville-Harlingen-Del Rio) have better ties with the neighboring Mexican states than with the rest of Texas.
I disagree with that. Coming from a country where multiple languages are present. Language is a massive barrier and an international border is a massive barrier as well. Now the border cities probably have more in common with Nuevo Laredo, Cuidad Juarez and Matamoros. But a place like Kleberg County where only 40% of the population speaks Spanish while a much larger percent 80-90%+ speaks English, I find it hard to believe the connections are deeper to Mexico than the rest of Texas. About the only place where I would believe it is would be counties where 75%+ of the population spoke Spanish, because that means a supermajority speak that language. But even then 25% speak only English. Only a few counties in Texas do you get 90% speaking Spanish (and possibly English but we don't collect easy to access stats on those), and 10% speaking English only. Those counties it's easy to see how the connection to Mexico is stronger as depending on the bilingual number of students their might be more Spanish speakers than English Speakers.
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Old 11-22-2020, 11:17 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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Definitely not a Southern city culturally. San Antonio culturally is a Mexican city, not really American to me.

I consider San Antonio and everything south of it an extension of Mexico.
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Old 11-22-2020, 11:24 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Definitely not a Southern city culturally. San Antonio culturally is a Mexican city, not really American to me.

I consider San Antonio and everything south of it an extension of Mexico.
It doesn't really matter if old line San Antonio families consider it to be Southern. If they say it's the South, then it is.
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