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Old 01-17-2021, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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I'm not quite sure but they routinely do and have in this thread.

Saying that Hispanics negates an area's Southerness is ridiculous considering Houston is undeniably Southern amd is close to being a Hispanic majority city. There are towns in Georgia and North Carolina (not even border states) with tons of Hispanica as well.
There are people who will tell you Houston isn’t southern because of this. And they’re wrong ofcourse. And then there’s people that tell you Texas as a whole isn’t the south because it’s not “backwoods like Alabama and Mississippi”. Of course then Atlanta wouldn’t be either. But all that is from the old negative view of the south. Which is probably why, as you mention, it’s often boomers.

This is why the definition of Deep South or “Dixie” is a separate entity.
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Old 01-17-2021, 10:48 AM
 
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There are people who will tell you Houston isn’t southern because of this. And they’re wrong ofcourse. And then there’s people that tell you Texas as a whole isn’t the south because it’s not “backwoods like Alabama and Mississippi”. Of course then Atlanta wouldn’t be either. But all that is from the old negative view of the south. Which is probably why, as you mention, it’s often boomers.

This is why the definition of Deep South or “Dixie” is a separate entity.
Geographically, yes....culturally, no. I think SA exhibits significantly more Southwest US characteristics/traits than Houston.
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Old 01-17-2021, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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Geographically, yes....culturally, no. I think SA exhibits significantly more Southwest US characteristics/traits than Houston.
Houston exhibits significantly more culture than SA period.
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Old 01-17-2021, 11:22 AM
 
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There are people who will tell you Houston isn’t southern because of this. And they’re wrong ofcourse. And then there’s people that tell you Texas as a whole isn’t the south because it’s not “backwoods like Alabama and Mississippi”. Of course then Atlanta wouldn’t be either. But all that is from the old negative view of the south. Which is probably why, as you mention, it’s often boomers.

This is why the definition of Deep South or “Dixie” is a separate entity.
Yeah, they're very wrong about that. Honestly every big city in the South deviates pretty far from the "only black and white people" and/or "backwoods" requirements that they have from the South. Apparently North Carolina has a large and growing Mexican population and that state is as Southern as it gets. When I went to New Orleans, it looked like the suburbs had a large Central American population, does that mean Kenner, Louisiana is actually the Southwest?

Is it just the negative view of the Old South though? I also find it to be boomer stubbornness about what constitutes the "real" South. They didn't grow up with Hispanics so they don't understand that the Hispanics in Houston are pretty Southern culturally, even if it's not white Southern culture. I personally wouldn't bat an eyelash at seeing Mexicans and Central Americans even in Alabama and Mississippi.
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Old 01-17-2021, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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Houston exhibits significantly more culture than SA period.
Sure, maybe? My visit to Houston (amongst a lot of others) was cookie cutter, generic American.

San Antonio was fresh, riverwalk, great Mexican food an truly unique. Houston could be anywhere.
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Old 01-17-2021, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Omaha, Ne
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Geographically, San Antonio is South Central.

But to satisfy the un quenching city-data obsession for this actual “Dixie” related question-

San Antonio is not “the south”.
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Old 01-17-2021, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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Sure, maybe? My visit to Houston (amongst a lot of others) was cookie cutter, generic American.

San Antonio was fresh, riverwalk, great Mexican food an truly unique. Houston could be anywhere.
Houston has way better regional Mexican food than SA. SA’s strengths are Tex Mex.
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Old 01-17-2021, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Wonderland
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There are people who will tell you Houston isn’t southern because of this. And they’re wrong ofcourse. And then there’s people that tell you Texas as a whole isn’t the south because it’s not “backwoods like Alabama and Mississippi”. Of course then Atlanta wouldn’t be either. But all that is from the old negative view of the south. Which is probably why, as you mention, it’s often boomers.

This is why the definition of Deep South or “Dixie” is a separate entity.
LOL that's funny because personally I hear a lot more negativity about the South from people who are younger than me (IOW not Boomers, of which I am on the younger end).
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Old 01-17-2021, 12:19 PM
 
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Sure, maybe? My visit to Houston (amongst a lot of others) was cookie cutter, generic American.

San Antonio was fresh, riverwalk, great Mexican food an truly unique. Houston could be anywhere.
Houston has more Mexican immigrants than San Antonio, I would have to imagine that they do regional Mexican food better like Paragueneroswag stated.
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Old 01-17-2021, 12:20 PM
 
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lol @ the idea of anyone not considering Houston the South


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