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Old 01-17-2021, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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lol @ the idea of anyone not considering Houston the South


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZAYzLjQAd4
That type of **** exists in San Antonio too.

San Antonio’s hip hop scene is basically a straight copy of Houston’s, they’re just not as known for it. Same accent, same style. If you’re judging southerness by hip hop, everywhere in the US census definition of thee American south (with the exception of Baltimore/DC) and maybe El Paso, it will all seem very southern to you.
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Old 01-17-2021, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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And, Foam. I’m with you in most of yours arguments of Texas being the South. But seriously. Do you actually think everyone in Houston lives like the Still Tippin music video lmao. And does everyone in Atlanta live like the Ludacris southern hospitality music video. And does everyone in LA live like “ain’t nuthin but a G thang” by Dre music video. You can’t use this as your selling point and expect to be taken seriously
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Old 01-17-2021, 01:56 PM
 
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And, Foam. I’m with you in most of yours arguments of Texas being the South. But seriously. Do you actually think everyone in Houston lives like the Still Tippin music video lmao. And does everyone in Atlanta live like the Ludacris southern hospitality music video. And does everyone in LA live like “ain’t nuthin but a G thang” by Dre music video. You can’t use this as your selling point and expect to be taken seriously
No lmao I don't think that the average Houstonite lives like that. But all 3 of them have strong Southern accents and that song came out at a time when hip hop had a lot of regional variation still, with their sound being very Southern.
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Old 01-17-2021, 01:57 PM
 
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That type of **** exists in San Antonio too.

San Antonio’s hip hop scene is basically a straight copy of Houston’s, they’re just not as known for it. Same accent, same style. If you’re judging southerness by hip hop, everywhere in the US census definition of thee American south (with the exception of Baltimore/DC) and maybe El Paso, it will all seem very southern to you.
I do think San Antonio (and Austin) are the South but not just because of the hip hop.
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Old 01-18-2021, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Ga, from Minneapolis
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I don't know any black Texan who doesn't consider themselves southern.
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Old 01-19-2021, 09:43 PM
 
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Ask them why they do it
I would but I don't know any Boomers who say that. Sounds crazy to me.
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Old 01-19-2021, 09:45 PM
 
Location: Born + raised SF Bay; Tyler, TX now WNY
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San Antonio is really a borderline area between the South and the Southwest. Flip of the coin on this question, IMHO.
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Old 01-19-2021, 09:47 PM
 
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I'm not quite sure but they routinely do and have in this thread.

Saying that Hispanics negates an area's Southerness is ridiculous considering Houston is undeniably Southern amd is close to being a Hispanic majority city. There are towns in Georgia and North Carolina (not even border states) with tons of Hispanica as well.
OK, I see what you are saying. They are talking about *culture*, not geography. But they are still wrong. Just because another culture has grown in a region, it doesn't mean it supplants the culture that was there first. It'd be like saying Guadalajara is not a Mexican city because so many Americans now live there.
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Old 01-20-2021, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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I think there is also a distinction between saying a city is Southern vs. meaning that every resident in that city is Southern in culture.

I got laid off and Ive been driving Lyft around Houston to make up some of the lost revenue. Where Hispanics are concerned, even the ones that grow up in the barrios of Houston sound like they may as well be from the home country or that they have an accent that is very similar to 1st generation Hispanics from LA or Chicago. But then again, the Hispanics I pick up in black neighborhoods have Southern accents. There is MANY more of the 1st group than the 2nd in my experience.

I personally do not consider the 1st group of people "southern" even though they live in an unquestionably Southern city.
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Old 01-20-2021, 09:18 AM
 
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I think there is also a distinction between saying a city is Southern vs. meaning that every resident in that city is Southern in culture.

I got laid off and Ive been driving Lyft around Houston to make up some of the lost revenue. Where Hispanics are concerned, even the ones that grow up in the barrios of Houston sound like they may as well be from the home country or that they have an accent that is very similar to 1st generation Hispanics from LA or Chicago. But then again, the Hispanics I pick up in black neighborhoods have Southern accents. There is MANY more of the 1st group than the 2nd in my experience.

I personally do not consider the 1st group of people "southern" even though they live in an unquestionably Southern city.
How do you know the people in the 1st group are US born? And someone could have a noticible Latin accent while still being part of the Southern hip hop scene.

I agree with your overall sentiment, though.
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