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Old 12-20-2020, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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This is the Parkside development in DC:


Parkside
Office: 1,000,000 SF
Residential: 1,500 units
Retail: 50,000 SF

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LODN4Qq9orI

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Old 12-20-2020, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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Northeast Heights

This area is considered downtown Ward 7 and it's full of black businesses. I believe this area combined with Parkside will become the center of African American entertainment for Ward 7 and Prince George's county once complete.

The 2 Million Square Feet of Development Proposed for Benning Road and Minnesota Avenue


“Earlier this year, DC’s Department of General Services (DGS) committed to a 20-year lease off Benning Road and Minnesota Avenue as part of a new development by Cedar Realty. Now, the developer is moving forward with a proposal for the entire project.

Cedar Realty and Trammell Crow have filed a Large Tract Review application with the city's Office of Planning for a project that would replace the East River Park shopping center at 322 40th Street NE (map) and Senator Square Shopping Center on the other side of Minnesota Avenue NE (map) with roughly 1.97 million square feet of mixed-use development.

The "Northeast Heights Town Center" would deliver roughly 241,000 square feet of office space, 130,000 square feet of retail and restaurants, a 70,000 square-foot grocery store, and 1,355 residential units across 13.3 acres. The resulting eight buildings would have a maximum height of 65 feet and would be serviced by 1,248 vehicular parking spaces. Although there is currently a Safeway on the site, it is unlikely that the new grocer will also be a Safeway...”

The site plan below is for Northeast Heights, however, it also shows the Parkside neighborhood area on the other side of Minnesota Avenue metro station. This neighborhood will become a massive mixed-use activity center in the near future.

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Old 12-20-2020, 02:00 PM
 
Location: ATL via ROC
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That’s some pretty remarkable stuff going up in Boston. I’d love to see more of it. It has always bothered me that Atlanta is seen as the Black Mecca in today’s America as, despite probably being mostly deserving of that title, it really is quite flawed and a weak city for its size. If Boston can position itself as a reinvented, truly urban city for black Americans to thrive in over the next decade or so, that would be outstanding. The offerings already established are top tier and these new developments are encouraging. Affordability would be the biggest hurdle to overcome, I’d think.
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Old 12-20-2020, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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That’s some pretty remarkable stuff going up in Boston. I’d love to see more of it. It has always bothered me that Atlanta is seen as the Black Mecca in today’s America as, despite probably being mostly deserving of that title, it really is quite flawed and a weak city for its size. If Boston can position itself as a reinvented, truly urban city for black Americans to thrive in over the next decade or so, that would be outstanding. The offerings already established are top tier and these new developments are encouraging. Affordability would be the biggest hurdle to overcome, I’d think.
I wouldn't hold my breath that Boston changes in its position in black urban America besides a lessening of the stigma attached to it as the city become more accessible via tech and social media. Already it's a truly urban city with relatively "prosperous" black folks. Affordability is the biggest issue but it's about the same price as NYC but for larger prettier homes and apartments. It's just as important to house and entertain some of the native Bostonians as it is to draw visitors to Nubian Square and/or black Boston. This man is trying to do it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6r0ASK_of3M&t=4s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbFjV6F_PCs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGBLMdYHeBM


Atlanta is flawed, but how is it weak? Relative to Boston? sure, but its a younger city. And there's much it does better than Boston.
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Old 12-20-2020, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Northeast Heights

This area is considered downtown Ward 7 and it's full of black businesses. I believe this area combined with Parkside will become the center of African American entertainment for Ward 7 and Prince George's county once complete.

The 2 Million Square Feet of Development Proposed for Benning Road and Minnesota Avenue


“Earlier this year, DC’s Department of General Services (DGS) committed to a 20-year lease off Benning Road and Minnesota Avenue as part of a new development by Cedar Realty. Now, the developer is moving forward with a proposal for the entire project.

Cedar Realty and Trammell Crow have filed a Large Tract Review application with the city's Office of Planning for a project that would replace the East River Park shopping center at 322 40th Street NE (map) and Senator Square Shopping Center on the other side of Minnesota Avenue NE (map) with roughly 1.97 million square feet of mixed-use development.

The "Northeast Heights Town Center" would deliver roughly 241,000 square feet of office space, 130,000 square feet of retail and restaurants, a 70,000 square-foot grocery store, and 1,355 residential units across 13.3 acres. The resulting eight buildings would have a maximum height of 65 feet and would be serviced by 1,248 vehicular parking spaces. Although there is currently a Safeway on the site, it is unlikely that the new grocer will also be a Safeway...”

The site plan below is for Northeast Heights, however, it also shows the Parkside neighborhood area on the other side of Minnesota Avenue metro station. This neighborhood will become a massive mixed-use activity center in the near future.

Some huge stuff in DC that will no doubt benefit the community but will likely more easily draw both white and black professionals than Nubian Square. The ignorance/stigma of Nubian Square and Roxbury at large is heavy amongst both white residents and black transplants. This lot has been owned by the city for 30+ years. It's been tough to get enough bidders or quality bidders. This was actually the only proposal standing, Michael Bivins had a group ('ID8') that lost funding at the last second.

In general, the nature of development in DC is less piecemeal and more sweeping than Boston. Hopefully, the decline in black % slows and black professionals are attracted to these developments.
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Old 12-20-2020, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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Market 7 Food Hall

A Market Supporting DC Black-Owned Businesses

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Old 12-20-2020, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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This topic is very close to my heart. During a time with heightened awareness of the disadvantages the black community has faced for the last 400 years; it's important to take advantage of the additional financial support available for black communities to bring basic amenities into neighborhoods that have been without them for decades.

Integration was wonderful for the black population; however, it was devastating to the black business as their former customer base was diluted. That is the reason many black businesses closed in black neighborhoods. We are now coming full circle as investment is happening in black neighborhoods around the nation.

Here are some transformative projects in DC:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrR5w40IMKg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrE0LUAdNNE
The music and graphics on that Barry Farms video lol. They were on point with it! Very good video.

I feel like Skyland is gonna be a bit different in its residents...
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Old 12-20-2020, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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Some huge stuff in DC that will no doubt benefit the community but will likely more easily draw both white and black professionals than Nubian Square. The ignorance/stigma of Nubian Square and Roxbury at large is heavy amongst both white residents and black transplants. This lot has been owned by the city for 30+ years. It's been tough to get enough bidders or quality bidders. This was actually the only proposal standing, Michael Bivins had a group ('ID8') that lost funding at the last second.

In general, the nature of development in DC is less piecemeal and more sweeping than Boston. Hopefully, the decline in black % slows and black professionals are attracted to these developments.
That is the part that is still up for debate. You may be right, but I don't think that will be the case for any of the developments in Ward 7 and Ward 8 DC. Just like Prince George's county, the Anacostia River is a major barrier to white professionals. People just don't cross the river much in D.C. I think these areas will always be black. That is who is buying houses in Ward 7 and Ward 8 too.
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Old 12-20-2020, 02:37 PM
 
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The music and graphics on that Barry Farms video lol. They were on point with it! Very good video.

I feel like Skyland is gonna be a bit different in its residents...

I don't know about Skyland Town Center when it comes to residents. It's not near transit or anything else really. It will be interesting to see if they get black professionals to move into the development versus Branch Avenue Metro Station/Camp Springs etc. where they tend to move right now.

DC has so many young black professionals right on the line of D.C. that these new options may tip the scale, I guess we will see.
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Old 12-20-2020, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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So Nubian Square is the same thing as Dudley Square?
Dudley Square 1980s:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLjmmrMKUL0&t


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOtV8U2gjg0

Dudley Renaming:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnc6tfS2FY0

Nubian as it is today-sketchy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZVIECeny7E


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcLoRMcS-XQ&t


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDNSyAwm-C8&t

Plans to revitalize:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_hnD69GaLs
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