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Old 12-20-2020, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Northeast Heights

This area is considered downtown Ward 7 and it's full of black businesses. I believe this area combined with Parkside will become the center of African American entertainment for Ward 7 and Prince George's county once complete.

The 2 Million Square Feet of Development Proposed for Benning Road and Minnesota Avenue


“Earlier this year, DC’s Department of General Services (DGS) committed to a 20-year lease off Benning Road and Minnesota Avenue as part of a new development by Cedar Realty. Now, the developer is moving forward with a proposal for the entire project.

Cedar Realty and Trammell Crow have filed a Large Tract Review application with the city's Office of Planning for a project that would replace the East River Park shopping center at 322 40th Street NE (map) and Senator Square Shopping Center on the other side of Minnesota Avenue NE (map) with roughly 1.97 million square feet of mixed-use development.

The "Northeast Heights Town Center" would deliver roughly 241,000 square feet of office space, 130,000 square feet of retail and restaurants, a 70,000 square-foot grocery store, and 1,355 residential units across 13.3 acres. The resulting eight buildings would have a maximum height of 65 feet and would be serviced by 1,248 vehicular parking spaces. Although there is currently a Safeway on the site, it is unlikely that the new grocer will also be a Safeway...”

The site plan below is for Northeast Heights, however, it also shows the Parkside neighborhood area on the other side of Minnesota Avenue metro station. This neighborhood will become a massive mixed-use activity center in the near future.
I hate those shopping centers so this is a great addition. They also need to really rework the roads there.My only negative on this application is the architecture is very very bland compared to Barry Farm or Nubian Acsends


Absolutely massive development though. I hope it includes a cultural or performance space. I was happy Nubian square got 20,000 square feet for that especially considering they just tore down the Harriet Tubman House in the South End which was a major facility for the black community.
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Old 12-20-2020, 05:59 PM
 
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Yea this is the kind of stuff I’m talking about. It’s a little more modest but there’s less of a need for this in Charlotte as is.... This is great. I like the connectivity aspect of it, and I like that it’s green-black peoples in general need more green spaces in the CITY.
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CGE Venture Group aims to create a public/private partnership with the City of Charlotte. Councilman Malcolm Graham, who represents the area, says the city is in the beginning stages of due diligence.

“I’m extremely excited about the development. This group is what we’re looking for,” he said. “William is from the community and is investing in the community. And the residents want what he’s building.”

Graham addressed concerns about displacing neighbors, noting the group’s connection to the west Charlotte community as a way to reduce gentrification.

“The goal in bringing these developments is to not price people out,” he added. “People deserve clean, safe neighborhoods.”

Hughes believes that some have used the term gentrification to scare Black residents into not demanding better development and resources for their communities in fear they’d be priced out when new developments are built.

I think that we have to be very aware that gentrification is oftentimes used as a method to paralyze us and to create greater fear and get us complacent with not having investment in our communities,” he said.

IVE BEEN saying this in a few FB groups!
Here's another article about new development coming to west Charlotte that contains this relevant tidbit:

Graham knows that residents are concerned about the ramifications of development, like being priced out of their homes. But, according to him, there’s one thing sets this project apart from the others.

“The thing that makes this project so amazing is that the individuals who are involved in it actually live in the corridor, and they’re investing in the corridor,” he said, standing in a grassy plot where a commercial building will sit in a couple of years.

“These are young African-American investors who saw value in their community and are willing to invest in it. I think that means a lot… to protect the history and the tradition.”
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Old 12-20-2020, 06:03 PM
 
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It has always bothered me that Atlanta is seen as the Black Mecca in today’s America as, despite probably being mostly deserving of that title, it really is quite flawed and a weak city for its size.
How so?

And speaking of Atlanta, this is like a reverse example of what BBMM is looking for that just opened there but it's relevant nonetheless.
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Old 12-20-2020, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Tupelo, Ms
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I’m talking about concentrated intentional efforts that are starting from scratch essentially. With a black team/vision.
Essentially that's an ongoing theme throughout major metros historically & currently. Your posts and the following posters confirm my statement is the theme you've mentioned will definitely be in the largest places overall. The distribution of it nationally still leans favorable towards the all star metros.
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Old 12-20-2020, 07:02 PM
 
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How so?

And speaking of Atlanta, this is like a reverse example of what BBMM is looking for that just opened there but it's relevant nonetheless.
Why exactly is this a reverse example? I’m assuming aside from the vendor featured here most of the development is white and it’s suburban?
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Old 12-20-2020, 07:11 PM
 
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Essentially that's an ongoing theme throughout major metros historically & currently. Your posts and the following posters confirm my statement is the theme you've mentioned will definitely be in the largest places overall. The distribution of it nationally still leans favorable towards the all star metros.
I wouldn’t have guessed that, I’d expect it to be less I. The west but maybe a thing in the warmer Midwest/Upper South metros that aren’t declining a la Kansas City, Indy, Cindy, Nashville, Louisville. Those seem like cities with the land, affordability, black populations and economies that could sustain this.

Further south id sort of expect there to be less of a need for this type of development and a lack of urban bones to support one. At least when in Comparison to Boston.

All Star metros make sense because the capital is floating around but I’ve posted this on FB-doesn’t seen many places are getting a beat in this outside of DC and Boston which I guess makes sense. Demographically and socioeconomically theyre two very very similar cities.

LA I can see as too suburban for this. I could see Chicago not doing it because of other more pressing issues and a declining black populous. I’d expect NYC to be on this already and I’m sure they are somewhere run there. Miami is..Miami, so no. Philly I feel like already has this development a few times over. Areas near Temple kind of remind me of this.

I talk with black business owners in Denver and Seattle regularly for work and I know this isn’t in their purview.

I’d think Oakland would have something like this but it couldn’t be getting developed right now-Oakland arms to be too desirable anywhere there’s a modicum of transit.meaning the price tag for acquisition and ownership is likely out of reach for anyone in that black community. You’d thriving Boston would be the same but it depends on the area-Nubian Square isn’t all that desirable rn.
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Old 12-20-2020, 07:19 PM
 
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Nubian Square Ascends website: https://nubiansquareascends.com/frontpage/

I dunno how I forgot the most important picture of the project

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...Srufg&usqp=CAU

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Old 12-20-2020, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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Nubian Square Ascends website: https://nubiansquareascends.com/frontpage/

I dunno how I forgot the most important picture of the project
I love this development. Are there anymore developments in Boston in other black neighborhoods? Plans for any redevelopment?
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Old 12-20-2020, 09:20 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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Downtown Anacostia

This development is significant for downtown Anacostia. MLK Gateway will bring 20,000 sq. feet of office space for black owned IT consulting firm Enlightened.

MLK Gateway

"MLK Gateway is expected to deliver a Keller Williams Capital Properties training academy and a new 20,000 square-foot headquarters for IT consulting firm Enlightened. Other tenants being courted include a small-format grocer, a sit-down restaurant, and other neighborhood-serving retailers. Hickok Cole Architects is the designer...."


https://assets.urbanturf.com/dc/imag...lk-gateway.jpg
https://assets.urbanturf.com/dc/imag...k-gateway2.jpg

Also, phase II of this project is moving forward and a DC government agency will be anchoring it. Just a quick note, almost all DC government employees are black.

MLK Gateway Phase II
A major D.C. agency will anchor the second phase of Anacostia's MLK Gateway

https://assets.urbanturf.com/dc/imag...wy-b-umlk2.jpg
https://assets.urbanturf.com/dc/imag...twy-b-dmlk.jpg

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Old 12-20-2020, 09:34 PM
 
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I wouldn’t have guessed that, I’d expect it to be less I. The west but maybe a thing in the warmer Midwest/Upper South metros that aren’t declining a la Kansas City, Indy, Cindy, Nashville, Louisville. Those seem like cities with the land, affordability, black populations and economies that could sustain this.

Further south id sort of expect there to be less of a need for this type of development and a lack of urban bones to support one. At least when in Comparison to Boston.

All Star metros make sense because the capital is floating around but I’ve posted this on FB-doesn’t seen many places are getting a beat in this outside of DC and Boston which I guess makes sense. Demographically and socioeconomically theyre two very very similar cities.

LA I can see as too suburban for this. I could see Chicago not doing it because of other more pressing issues and a declining black populous. I’d expect NYC to be on this already and I’m sure they are somewhere run there. Miami is..Miami, so no. Philly I feel like already has this development a few times over. Areas near Temple kind of remind me of this.

I talk with black business owners in Denver and Seattle regularly for work and I know this isn’t in their purview.

I’d think Oakland would have something like this but it couldn’t be getting developed right now-Oakland arms to be too desirable anywhere there’s a modicum of transit.meaning the price tag for acquisition and ownership is likely out of reach for anyone in that black community. You’d thriving Boston would be the same but it depends on the area-Nubian Square isn’t all that desirable rn.
To be honest, while the development may not be on the scale of the cities mentioned on here thus far, I think you are starting to see some type of plans for development in black urban neighborhoods across the country involving black developers or entrepreneurs to some degree. Even in Syracuse, on the city’s South Side, there are plans by a developer and by 2 couples, among others, that have plans to help revitalize the South Salina Street corridor/Sankofa District. https://www.city-data.com/forum/58732725-post48.html

https://www.city-data.com/forum/58721191-post47.html
https://www.google.com/amp/s/cnycent...-7m-investment

https://www.city-data.com/forum/55149548-post44.html
Our History – E Smith Contractors

https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/ce...e-5-year-plan-
https://www.urbancny.com/southside-s...s-controversy/
3 Southside — Tomorrow's Neighborhoods Today

https://www.sankofafestsyracuse.com/

https://www.cafesankofacoop.com/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.loc...outh-side/amp/

https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/ce...eep-improving-

A coworking space in the corridor: https://www.thecreatorslounge.net/
https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/ce...aturday-events

A community newspaper: https://mysouthsidestand.com/

There is another corridor(South Avenue/West Onondaga) that has also been thrown around on that side of town in terms of development with some of it coming from this organization: https://www.jubilee-homes.org/

It helped to get this supermarket in that area of that section of town: Price Rite of South Avenue Opens in Syracuse, NY | PriceRite

So, there are likely some efforts of various degrees where people in the community are helping to revitalize the community they live in and/or come from.

More: SCC Projects

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.syr...outputType=amp
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